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    #1

    try to do or try doing ?

    we say we are trying to do sth or trying doing sth? thanks.

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    #2

    Re: try to do or try doing ?

    Tying to do is correct.

    The most common error in this area - and you didn't make it! - is using try and do something, instead of try to do something. It's like chalk scatching on a blackboard to some of us more sensitive types.


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    Re: try to do or try doing ?

    Quote Originally Posted by hanky View Post
    we say we are trying to do sth or trying doing sth? thanks.
    Try to do = make an effort
    Try doing = experiment with it

    I tried to move the wardrobe but couldn't do it, it was too heavy.

    -The TV seems to be out of order.
    -Try moving the antenna.

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    Re: try to do or try doing ?

    Quote Originally Posted by hanky View Post
    we say we are trying to do sth or trying doing sth? thanks.
    we are trying to do sth = Đang cố gắng lm vic g đ (We are doing our best to do sth)

    we are trying doing sth = Đang Thử lm việc g đấy (are doing and see if it works)

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    #5

    Re: try to do or try doing ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jlinger View Post
    Tying to do is correct.

    The most common error in this area - and you didn't make it! - is using try and do something, instead of try to do something. It's like chalk scatching on a blackboard to some of us more sensitive types.

    Your answer made me remember of this song...

    The Streets - Stay Positive

    "...
    Carry on through the estate, stare at the geezers so they know you aint lightweight
    And go see your mates
    And when they don't look happy
    Play them this tape

    Just try and stay positive
    Just try and stay positive
    Just try and stay positive
    Just try and stay positive

    I hope you understand me
    Just try and stay positive
    ..."

    Oh, sorry...

    Could anybody tell me why people use it?

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    #6

    Re: try to do or try doing ?

    Quote Originally Posted by anreak View Post
    ...

    Just try and stay positive
    Just try and stay positive
    Just try and stay positive
    Just try and stay positive

    I hope you understand me
    Just try and stay positive
    ..."

    Oh, sorry...

    Could anybody tell me why people use it?
    Well, it's primarily a spoken trait (though it has been known to infect the written language [ is my inner prescriptivist showing its true colours?], so I suspect it's just a matter of saving effort. The tongue has to be pretty athletic if you say 'Try to stay positive'; by contrast 'try 'n stay positive' is much easier (one consonant less, and nasal plosion on the next one). Descriptively, it's almost as if there were a new verb, /traɪǝn/. But we're in the wrong forum for Nasal release - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: try to do or try doing ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    Well, it's primarily a spoken trait (though it has been known to infect the written language [ is my inner prescriptivist showing its true colours?], so I suspect it's just a matter of saving effort. The tongue has to be pretty athletic if you say 'Try to stay positive'; by contrast 'try 'n stay positive' is much easier (one consonant less, and nasal plosion on the next one). Descriptively, it's almost as if there were a new verb, /traɪǝn/. But we're in the wrong forum for Nasal release - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Perfect!

    ...and it doesn't sound so wrong because first you try (to stay positive) and then you actually stay positive...first you have to try, don't you? Ok, it's not good.

    Thanks for your answer.

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    #8

    Re: try to do or try doing ?

    PS for linguists: I changed my example, and left the one with nasal plosion on the cutting room floor - /n/ followed by /st/ doesn't have any, though many other initial consonants would. Phew.

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    #9

    Re: try to do or try doing ?

    Good explanations there, Bob. But the next time I hear it, I'm still gonna traɪǝn shoot'em.

    And nice examples, Clark. I had forgotten about the "try moving the antenna" concept.

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