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    reported speech

    "My birthday fell on last Friday," said Jack.

    If the above is reported, which verb should I use?

    Jack said that his birthday fell/had fallen on the previous Friday.

    I think I should use 'fell'. Am I correct?

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    Re: reported speech

    I would skip the dilemma and use "was" - John said his birthday was the previous Friday. (By the way, mine was!).

    I guss the only reason one would want to say "fell" is to stress it was a Friday, rather than on a Thursday, as it was the year before.

    I don't see the reason for "had fallen" though? Anyone else?

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    Re: reported speech

    Quote Originally Posted by jlinger View Post
    I would skip the dilemma and use "was" - John said his birthday was the previous Friday. (By the way, mine was!).

    I guss the only reason one would want to say "fell" is to stress it was a Friday, rather than on a Thursday, as it was the year before.

    I don't see the reason for "had fallen" though? Anyone else?
    The reason you might use "had fallen" is that the sentence refers to two times in the past, one prior the other.
    When Jack said "My birthday fell...", his birthday had already fallen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    The reason you might use "had fallen" is that the sentence refers to two times in the past, one prior the other.
    When Jack said "My birthday fell...", his birthday had already fallen.
    And this is what reported speech is for - backshifting!

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    Re: reported speech

    Just to confirm that I got it correct, the sentence should be reported as:

    Jack said that his birthday fell on the previous Friday.

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    Cool Re: reported speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Tan Elaine View Post
    Just to confirm that I got it correct, the sentence should be reported as:

    Jack said that his birthday fell on the previous Friday.
    Jack said that his birthday had fallen (on) the previous Friday. (on is optional)


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