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    meaning of sentence with 'until now'

    She has never been happy until now.

    1. She was never happy up to now. She is happy for the first time.

    2. She has never been happy until even now. In other words, she has not experienced happiness till this very moment.

    Does the sentence in bold mean #1 or #2? Or is there another interpretation?

    Many thanks in advance.

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    #2

    Re: meaning of sentence with 'until now'

    hi,
    just a student.
    the 2 interpretations you have provided seems to mean the same thing.
    to me, both are correct.
    just a student.
    regards.

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    Re: meaning of sentence with 'until now'

    Number 1 is correct.

    (Not a teacher)

    Number 2 suggests that even now they cannot feel happiness.

    Saying "until now" is like saying "it is different now than it was before".

    So,
    "until now I have never tried to post on ESL" is the same as "Before I never tried to post on ESL. Now I have for the first time."

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    #4

    Re: meaning of sentence with 'until now'

    "She has never been happy until now."
    "In other words, she has not experienced happiness till this very moment."

    hi,
    don't these sentences mean the same thing?
    thanks

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    Re: meaning of sentence with 'until now'

    "till this very moment" means he means INCLUDING this moment she does not feel happiness.

    I hope I have cleared this up for you, please let me know if I haven't!

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    Re: meaning of sentence with 'until now'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tan Elaine View Post
    She has never been happy until now.

    1. She was never happy up to now. She is happy for the first time.

    2. She has never been happy until even now. In other words, she has not experienced happiness till this very moment.

    Does the sentence in bold mean #1 or #2? Or is there another interpretation?

    Many thanks in advance.
    I do find this sentence ambiguous, but I think the intended meaning is #2. I'll try to give an analysis:

    "She has never been happy"

    is not a terminated act, its continuing. I allow this portion of the sentence to give me the force of the meaning, that she is still not happy and she continues to be unhappy.

    The "until now" portion of the sentence is the troublemaker, it wants to act as a terminating adverb, but the single word "now" does not give it enough strength, and it therefore cannot force "has" to become "had". So a collocation must have been intended, "until now", meaning "right up to the present".

    I don't like the way "until now" is used here.

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    Re: meaning of sentence with 'until now'

    Quote Originally Posted by Raikun View Post
    "till this very moment" means he means INCLUDING this moment she does not feel happiness.

    I hope I have cleared this up for you, please let me know if I haven't!
    I would like to know whether your interpretation shown above is the same as Mxreader's, which is 'She has never been happy'.

    Many thanks.

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    Re: meaning of sentence with 'until now'

    Alex has horrific memories and we know that many of them are still locked inside. Talking to him about it is very painful and very harrowing. He goes through all the emotions. He is upset, composed, then happy. Like all children, his mind jumps all over the place. We talk to him in his language and we have tried to lift as much of the experience from his mind as we can so that it doesn't fester, get covered over, then burst out in 10 years time and turn him into a disturbed child. Until now , he has had to be with his father 100 per cent of the time. He lost his mother and has seen it happen, so to be away from his father would be impossible. Last week, for the first time since the murder on July 15, Alex's 29-year-old dad Andre Hanscombe, was able to leave him alone with his grandmother for three hours. ANDREW went on: "At the beginning, he had clung constantly to Andre. "Then it got a little better and as long as he ...

    Until now , information about his death has been second or third hand. This is from the man himself.

    "It's an experiment and very respectable. We shall see what will happen later until now nobody has tried such a method."

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