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    To be furnished

    Hi,

    My case is: I have a pile with two bearings, it is ok if I write:

    "The pile is furnished with two bearings at the ends" or "The pile is with two bearings at the ends"?

    Thank you.

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    Re: To be furnished

    Hi LeUyenHoc

    As a Brit, but not a teacher, both of the following work for me:

    "I have a pile with two bearings, one at each end"
    "The pile is furnished with a bearing at each end"

    The last sentence: "The pile is with two bearings at the ends" doesn't.

    Hope this helps
    NT

    PS Be careful of confusion over whether there are 2 bearings at each end vs 2 bearings with one at each end.

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    Re: To be furnished

    Quote Originally Posted by Neillythere View Post
    Hi LeUyenHoc

    As a Brit, but not a teacher, both of the following work for me:

    "I have a pile with two bearings, one at each end"
    "The pile is furnished with a bearing at each end"

    The last sentence: "The pile is with two bearings at the ends" doesn't.

    Hope this helps
    NT

    PS Be careful of confusion over whether there are 2 bearings at each end vs 2 bearings with one at each end.
    Hi Neillythere,

    Thank you very much

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    Re: To be furnished

    Can I write "I have a pile whose each end is furnished with a bearing"?

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    Re: To be furnished

    Hi LeUyenHoc

    I personally wouldn't have said :
    "I have a pile whose each end is furnished with a bearing"
    It feels a bit awkward.

    "I [also/do] have a pile (or piles) whose ends are furnished with a bearing" would work for me - e.g. If someone saw that I sold piles and I had a load of piles without bearings, but didn't see what they needed.

    Hope this helps
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    Re: To be furnished

    Hi LeUyenHoc

    I presume you are talking about 'pile' used in the construction of foundation.
    I'm not sure what you mean by 'bearing'(ball-bearing?) even though I am in the construction line.

    What I understand is, a pile is normally fitted with a pile sleeve to allow another pile to be joined end to end.

    not a teacher

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    Re: To be furnished

    Quote Originally Posted by tedtmc View Post
    Hi LeUyenHoc

    I presume you are talking about 'pile' used in the construction of foundation.
    I'm not sure what you mean by 'bearing'(ball-bearing?) even though I am in the construction line.

    What I understand is, a pile is normally fitted with a pile sleeve to allow another pile to be joined end to end.

    not a teacher
    Thank you

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    Re: To be furnished

    Quote Originally Posted by Neillythere View Post
    Hi LeUyenHoc

    I personally wouldn't have said :
    "I have a pile whose each end is furnished with a bearing"
    It feels a bit awkward.

    "I [also/do] have a pile (or piles) whose ends are furnished with a bearing" would work for me - e.g. If someone saw that I sold piles and I had a load of piles without bearings, but didn't see what they needed.

    Hope this helps
    Best regards
    NT
    Hi NT,

    Thank you for your help.

    Did you think there is difference between "whose each end" and "whose ends"?

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    Re: To be furnished

    Hi LeUyenHoc

    Apart from sounding awkward, the "each" is redundant, unless there were more than 2 ends (which wouldn't be true of foundation piles) and you were to say something like: "... with a different bearing on each end".

    To take up on tedtmc's point, I too am from an (oil & gas) engineering/construction background and don't recognise piles as having "bearings at each end", but was answering your query purely from an English language point of view.

    You may be misreading the term "end-bearing" see:
    Pile Foundation Design-Chapter 1
    "Piles can be classified as end-bearing piles, cohesive or friction piles."
    What end-bearing means, in this context, is not that it has a physical bearing on each end but that it takes all the load-bearing capability on its ends, whereas a friction pile relies on the friction between the sides of the pile and the surrounding ground, over its length.


    Hope this helps
    NT

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    Re: To be furnished

    Quote Originally Posted by Neillythere View Post
    Hi LeUyenHoc

    Apart from sounding awkward, the "each" is redundant, unless there were more than 2 ends (which wouldn't be true of foundation piles) and you were to say something like: "... with a different bearing on each end".

    To take up on tedtmc's point, I too am from an (oil & gas) engineering/construction background and don't recognise piles as having "bearings at each end", but was answering your query purely from an English language point of view.

    You may be misreading the term "end-bearing" see:
    Pile Foundation Design-Chapter 1
    "Piles can be classified as end-bearing piles, cohesive or friction piles."
    What end-bearing means, in this context, is not that it has a physical bearing on each end but that it takes all the load-bearing capability on its ends, whereas a friction pile relies on the friction between the sides of the pile and the surrounding ground, over its length.


    Hope this helps
    NT
    Hi Neillythere

    Thank you very much for your patience with clear explanation.

    Regards

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