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    It was like this originally?

    Hi~ Would you help me how to say this naturally please?

    A: Did you break down this an grill oven? It doesn't work.

    B: No, I didn’t do that.
    ⓐIt was broken from the beginning.
    ⓑIt was like this originally.
    ⓒIt was like this from the first time.
    ⓓIt was like this from the start.
    Last edited by flytothesky; 23-Dec-2008 at 06:14.

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    #2

    Re: It was like this originally?

    Hello Fly,

    Which of the answers is the best continuation, in your opinion?

    (By the way, the question is a little odd Ė "Did you break this grill?" would be more likely.)

    Best wishes,

    MrP

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    Re: It was like this originally?

    Thanks for the help and I changed "A" ....

    I actually can't distinguish the differences between ⓐ~ⓓ..
    I think all of them are correct.. or Is there any way to say more naturally?
    Would you please tell me please?


    A: Did you break this grill? It doesn't work.

    B: No, I didnít do that.
    ⓐIt was broken from the beginning.
    ⓑIt was like this originally.
    ⓒIt was like this from the first time.
    ⓓIt was like this from the start.

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    #4

    Re: It was like this originally?

    Hello Fly,

    "From the beginning" would not usually accompany a static condition, such as "being broken". You might use it with "I knew", however; or where the beginning referred to some other event or period (e.g. "it has been broken from the beginning of December").

    "From the first time" implies an action that may be repeated, e.g. "from the first time I came into this room". (Such an action is not expressed here.)

    "From the start" is very similar to "From the beginning". You could use the analogy of the "start" of a journey. Could "being broken" resemble a journey? Not really: it's a static condition. On the other hand, "disliking" someone might resemble a journey: and indeed, you can say "I disliked him from the start".

    Does that give you any clues?

    Best wishes,

    MrP

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    Re: It was like this originally?

    Dear MrPedantic

    Thanks again for your kind explain.

    It look like I have to consider what kind of verb use.

    I've thought again and edited it.
    Would you check for me if they make sense please?

    B: No, I didnít do that.
    ⓐIt was broken already.
    ⓑIt used to be like this when I found it.

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