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    to die/to have died

    Hi,
    1. Napoleon was said to die from asbestos poisoning.
    2. Napoleon is said to have died from asbestos poisoning.
    Please tell me about “to die” and “to have died”.
    In sentence 1 I used “was said” so I think “to die” is fine. In sentence 2 I used “is said” so “to have died” is good.
    Am I right?
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mylevt View Post
    Hi,
    1. Napoleon was said to die from asbestos poisoning.
    2. Napoleon is said to have died from asbestos poisoning.
    Please tell me about “to die” and “to have died”.
    In sentence 1 I used “was said” so I think “to die” is fine. In sentence 2 I used “is said” so “to have died” is good.
    Am I right?
    Thanks.

    I don't think so

    to have died (to+have+past participle) = the only option used for past tense in these kind of constructions.

    Correct:
    Napoleon was said to have died from asbestos poisoning.

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    Re: to die/to have died

    Thank you, mkss.
    Could you tell me if I can use "is said" and the difference between "is said" and "was said"?
    1. Napoleon was said to have died from asbestos poisoning.
    2. Napoleon is said to have died from asbestos poisoning.
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mylevt View Post
    Thank you, mkss.
    Could you tell me if I can use "is said" and the difference between "is said" and "was said"?
    1. Napoleon was said to have died from asbestos poisoning.
    2. Napoleon is said to have died from asbestos poisoning.
    Thanks.

    Both sentences are grammatically correct now.
    The difference is that 1. makes reference to something that was said in the past= Napoleon dies and after that he is said to have died (=someone said that he died).

    Sentence 2. is more like a 'common belief' ('what many people say/believe/etc') and time reference is present. (= many people say that he died)


    These structures are generally used to show that you're somewhat uncertain about what you're saying or you do no want to assume any kind of responsibility about it (because it's something that someone else has said or said)

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    Re: to die/to have died

    Thank you so much, mkss.

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