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    #1

    another problem

    Hi.

    Q. Identify the grammatical error in the dialogue.

    a) A: So, how did your barbecue go the other weekend?
    b) B: I guess it was OK, but something happened a little strange.
    c) A: Oh no. Don't tell me that you ran out of food like last time.
    d) B: No, but a friend brought an alive lobster and wanted to cook it.

    I know the answer is b) because " ~, but something a little strange happened" is the right word order.
    And I wonder why d) is not the answer.
    I learned that the position of alive is after noun.
    For example, The man is alive. So, I think that alive must be changed into
    living or live. Or, is that a destruction of grammar in the latest spoken English?

    Could you give me your opinion?

    Regards.
    Last edited by Grinkl; 31-Dec-2008 at 18:38. Reason: a typo


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    #2

    Re: another problem

    I think it should read a live lobster [= one live lobster].

    See this explanation from the Cambridge online dictionary (with an example):


    live
    Show phonetics
    adjective [before noun]
    having life:
    Millions of live animals are shipped around the world each year.
    There was a tank of live lobsters in the restaurant.



    Cambridge Dictionaries Online - Cambridge University Press


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    Re: another problem

    Quote Originally Posted by colloquium View Post
    I think it should read a live lobster [= one live lobster].

    See this explanation from the Cambridge online dictionary (with an example):


    live Show phonetics
    adjective [before noun]
    having life:
    Millions of live animals are shipped around the world each year.
    There was a tank of live lobsters in the restaurant.



    Cambridge Dictionaries Online - Cambridge University Press

    Thank you so much.
    Last edited by Grinkl; 01-Jan-2009 at 17:54. Reason: want an opinion


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    #4

    Re: another problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Grinkl View Post
    Thank you so much.

    Is it possible to change like this - ~brought a lobster alive ~ ?
    Could you give your reply, please?


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    #5

    Re: another problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Grinkl View Post
    Is it possible to change like this - ~brought a lobster alive ~ ?
    Could you give your reply, please?
    It is possible with a relative clause:

    He brought a lobster which was alive.

    You need the extra clause (and the additional verb it brings) because, grammatically, alive is often used as an adjective with a predicative function (i.e. used with the verb "to be").

    He is alive.

    Whereas in live lobster, the adjective live is performing an attributive function. Attributive adjectives come before the noun they modify: a red car, a tall man, etc).

    A live animal = the animal is alive.

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    #6

    Re: another problem

    Cockles and Mussels alive, alive oh.


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    Re: another problem

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Cockles and Mussels alive, alive oh.
    Thank you for informing me of this beautiful song.
    I heard it from this version. "moving and impressive"
    Irish Song Molly Malone
    Cockles and Mussels
    Paul Phonix, Soloist
    Choir of St Paul's Cathedral

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