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    Cool Buck the odds

    May "buck the odds" be understood as "facing destiny"?
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    Re: BUck the odds

    Quote Originally Posted by Bushwhacker View Post
    May "buck the odds" be understood as "facing destiny"?
    I think it could be understood that way only as a consequence of what it usually means, and even then very figuratively. It would strongly depend on the context.

    "Buck the odds" means to proceed with your intentions against (buck) a high probability (odds) of defeat, and (in a fairly common usage but not at all necessarily) to succeed, to win.

    "To face destiny" would be the effective result of failure.

    But the original intent is always NOT to submit to the destiny of inaction.
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    Cool Re: BUck the odds

    Quote Originally Posted by abaka View Post
    I think it could be understood that way only as a consequence of what it usually means, and even then very figuratively. It would strongly depend on the context.

    "Buck the odds" means to proceed with your intentions against (buck) a high probability (odds) of defeat, and (in a fairly common usage but not at all necessarily) to succeed, to win.

    "To face destiny" would be the effective result of failure.

    But the original intent is always NOT to submit to the destiny of inaction.
    Thank You very much. Sorry, thought it was a clear idiom. I found this expression reading on the coming soon movie The Wrestler. So Rourke "can not resist the urge to relive the single greatest moment of his life, as he bucks the odds and prepares for a re-match with his grand nemesis from 80's - The Ayatollah".

    Does it changes the meaning you kindly told me?

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    Re: BUck the odds

    Quote Originally Posted by Bushwhacker View Post
    Thank You very much. Sorry, thought it was a clear idiom. I found this expression reading on the coming soon movie The Wrestler. So Rourke "can not resist the urge to relive the single greatest moment of his life, as he bucks the odds and prepares for a re-match with his grand nemesis from 80's - The Ayatollah".

    Does it changes the meaning you kindly told me?
    No. Bourke wants to taste victory* again, so he fights Ayatollah despite the high odds of losing. We don't know yet the result of their match, so the second part of my explanation above, about winning this, is not necessary. (*I'm guessing "greatest moment" means victory. But it could also be the thrill of the fight, something else (a woman?) he can get only if he fights and wins, etc.)
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    Cool Re: BUck the odds

    Quote Originally Posted by abaka View Post
    No. Bourke wants to taste victory* again, so he fights Ayatollah despite the high odds of losing. We don't know what happens yet, so the second part of my explanation above, about winning this, is not necessary.

    *I'm guessing "greatest moment" means victory. But it could also be the thrill of the fight, something else (a woman?) he can get only if he fights and wins, etc.
    Thanks a lot. Very helpful.

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