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    by and with

    Once we discussed semantic differences between 'be surrounded with' and 'be surrounded by'. I'd like to go back to this topic. Could you mark the correct variants in the sentences below?

    1. She has always been surrounded by/with friends.
    2. She has always been surrounded by/with enemies.
    3. She has always been surrounded by/with toys.
    4. She has always been surrounded by/with care.
    5. She has has always been surrounded by/with hate.

    Your comments are most welcome.


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    Re: by and with

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    Once we discussed semantic differences between 'be surrounded with' and 'be surrounded by'. I'd like to go back to this topic. Could you mark the correct variants in the sentences below?

    1. She has always been surrounded by/with friends.
    2. She has always been surrounded by/with enemies.
    3. She has always been surrounded by/with toys.
    4. She has always been surrounded by/with care.
    5. She has has always been surrounded by/with hate.

    Your comments are most welcome.
    When surrounded is not adjectival in nature, only 'by' is possible.
    In all of your sentences, I would use 'by'.

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    Cool Re: by and with

    surrounded with - deliberate subject's action involved
    surrounded by - delibertate subject's action not involved

    She used to be surrounded with a couple of bodyguards. (She chose a couple of bodyguards by herself)
    She used to be surrounded by people who admired her. (She didn't choose the people)

    I want a house surrounded with a red brick fence. (Someone wants to put up such a fence around his or her house)
    I want a house surrounded by small hills. (Someone wants to have a house with hills around it)

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    Re: by and with

    She used to be surrounded with a couple of bodyguards.
    This sounds like she, along with her bodygaurds, was surrounded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    She used to be surrounded with a couple of bodyguards.
    This sounds like she, along with her bodygaurds, was surrounded.
    It only sounds like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post

    I want a house surrounded by a red brick fence. (Someone wants to find a house with such a fence already put up around it)

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    Re: by and with

    It should have been 'bodyguards'.


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    Re: by and with

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    surrounded with - deliberate subject's action involved
    surrounded by - delibertate subject's action not involved

    She used to be surrounded with a couple of bodyguards. (She chose a couple of bodyguards by herself)
    She used to be surrounded by people who admired her. (She didn't choose the people)

    I want a house surrounded with a red brick fence. (Someone wants to put up such a fence around his or her house)
    I want a house surrounded by small hills. (Someone wants to have a house with hills around it)
    This approach is new to me. Where did you get it from, Eng?

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    Re: by and with

    I want my house surrounded with a red brick fence. (Someone wants to put up such a fence around his or her house)


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    Bhaisahab, what would be your choices in my original sentences?

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    Re: by and with

    I would choose 'by' for all of them.

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