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    start-ups and upstarts

    Dear Teachers,

    There is an advertisement for a program for business on CNN in which they say, "In business there are start-ups and upstarts..." What does this mean?

    Thank you.

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    Re: start-ups and upstarts

    A start-up is a new company just beginning to develop its product and to grow.

    An upstart is a person or company that has suddenly risen into prominence from nothing. In other words, a suprisingly quickly successful start-up.
    Last edited by abaka; 28-Jan-2009 at 06:36. Reason: wording

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    #3

    Re: start-ups and upstarts

    ...and, in Br English at least, 'upstart' has a negative sense.

    For example, when Compaq first appeared on the market, selling 'IBM clones' as we used to call PCs that ran MS-DOS, it was a start-up. It was not even on the radar as a competitor for the company I worked for at the time (DEC). A few years later, after meteoric growth for them and bad times for us, it bought DEC (which was several times bigger than it). Many people at DEC resented this, and thought of Compaq as upstarts.

    If Am. Eng doesn't share this pejorative usage, perhaps that's a reflection of the US ethic ('cocky but successful = good')

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    #4

    Re: start-ups and upstarts

    My sense is that in Canada a human upstart is still dismissed, to some extent, but a corporate upstart is not.

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    Re: start-ups and upstarts

    Quote Originally Posted by abaka View Post
    My sense is that in Canada a human upstart is still dismissed, to some extent, but a corporate upstart is not.
    Perhaps they should be, look at the mess they have gotten us into.

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    #6

    Re: start-ups and upstarts

    I believe that one definition of upstart is to purchase and then develop an existing business.

    I think the OP's ad copy is a play on words: you can think of a person as an upstart or the existing business as an upstart.

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    Re: start-ups and upstarts

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Perhaps they should be, look at the mess they have gotten us into.
    I think that this is the first time in my life that I have written 'gotten'.

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    #8

    Re: start-ups and upstarts

    I imagine it was a semi-quote based on Laurel and Hardie's 'Another fine mess you've gotten us into'.

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    Last edited by BobK; 29-Jan-2009 at 12:47. Reason: Correction

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    Re: start-ups and upstarts

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    I imagine it was a semi-quote based on Laurel and Hardie's 'Another fine mess you've gotten us into'.

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    Yes it was, I had to stifle an impulse to write 'Stanley' after 'gotten us into'.

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