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    Welcome vs. Welcomed

    I edit and produce a church newsletter. I am often told to change "welcome" to "welcomed" by my administrator, education director, and senior pastor in cases where we announce upcoming events, etc. Eg: "Everyone is welcomed!" or "Even if you never attended before, you are just as welcomed."

    This sounds wrong to me, but I have no grammatical explantation to argue with . . . so I just do as I'm told! I am starting to think that this is a southern pattern of speech as I am working in the south with people from the south, but am from the north myself.

    Can you point me to a concise explantation?


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    Re: Welcome vs. Welcomed

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I edit and produce a church newsletter. I am often told to change "welcome" to "welcomed" by my administrator, education director, and senior pastor in cases where we announce upcoming events, etc. Eg: "Everyone is welcomed!" or "Even if you never attended before, you are just as welcomed."

    This sounds wrong to me, but I have no grammatical explantation to argue with . . . so I just do as I'm told! I am starting to think that this is a southern pattern of speech as I am working in the south with people from the south, but am from the north myself.

    Can you point me to a concise explantation?

    Welcome
    is an adjective. If someone is welcome, you are pleased when they visit you.
    Everyone is welcome.
    Everyone is welcomed. it means something else than what your text needs.

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    Re: Welcome vs. Welcomed

    ...And the second use of "welcomed" ('just as welcomed') is plain wrong.

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    Re: Welcome vs. Welcomed

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    ...And the second use of "welcomed" ('just as welcomed') is plain wrong.

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    (The visitors to the College) were warmly welcomed (by the Warden).
    Cambridge Dictionaries Online - Cambridge University Press

    Everyone was warmly welcomed by the Warden.
    Everyone was warmly welcomed.
    Everyone is warmly welcomed.
    Everyone is welcomed.

    At which stage is harm done to the condensed sentences grammatically, Bob?

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    Re: Welcome vs. Welcomed

    Quote Originally Posted by svartnik View Post
    (The visitors to the College) were warmly welcomed (by the Warden).
    Cambridge Dictionaries Online - Cambridge University Press

    Everyone was warmly welcomed by the Warden.
    Everyone was warmly welcomed.
    Everyone is warmly welcomed.
    Everyone is welcomed.

    At which stage is harm done to the condensed sentences grammatically, Bob?
    They're all fine. It's the 'just as'. But you can't be 'just as welcomed' for the same reason that you can't be 'just as pregnant' (except in the jocular sense, in which a woman can be 'very pregnant').

    'Everyone was just as warmly welcomed' would be fine.

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    Re: Welcome vs. Welcomed

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    They're all fine. It's the 'just as'. But you can't be 'just as welcomed' for the same reason that you can't be 'just as pregnant' (except in the jocular sense, in which a woman can be 'very pregnant').

    'Everyone was just as warmly welcomed' would be fine.

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    In my view, in the context of "just as welcomed", it should be adjectival and not verbal. So, it should be "just as welcome".

    However, I have a problem with these verses from the Bible. Acts 10:11 : "He saw heaven opened". Rev 19:11 : "I saw heaven opened". I have assumed that "saw" is a verb which causes "open" to be in the simple present tense. So, it should be "I saw heaven open" and "He saw heaven open".

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    Re: Welcome vs. Welcomed

    Maybe, the Bible has its own grammatical rules.

    Acts 10:11 He saw heaven opened
    (Rev 19:11). I saw heaven opened

    Maybe, the writer is trying to say heaven's opening has nothing to do with man (who saw).

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