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    indicative vs subjunctive

    I like to eat some soyabeans.

    I would like to eat some soyabeans.

    I know that the first sentence is an assertive one whereas second is not.

    Is the mood of the second sentence, Subjunctive? If so, how can we dissect the mood of a sentence to be subjunctive. Also what is the difference in meaning of each of the above sentences.

    I feel the results of the both above sentences when said would be the same.

    Please explicate.

    Thanks so much in advance.
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    Re: indicative vs subjunctive

    Despite the fact that 'would' originates as the past subjunctive of 'will', in terms of the grammar of modern English, the would-form used (as here) in a main clause is generally termed the conditional mood, the term 'subjunctive' being reserved for subordinate-clause forms such as 'be' in

    It is imperative that you be on time.

    (present subjunctive)

    or 'were' in

    I wish I were rich.

    (past subjunctive).

    Both of your sentences qualify as assertive, since they make a statement, as compared with interrogative sentences, or questions.

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    Re: indicative vs subjunctive

    Here are the few understandings I have of the above statements:

    When one utters a statement such as 'I would like to eat some soyabeans.' , it gives the listener(probably, the one's aunt) the opportunity to not oblige to you. The speaker was being humble or not desperate to eat.

    Where as with the former sentence(I like to.. ), it sounds pretty rash when one is talking to not-so-close acquaintances. Probably, it might even display the level of desperateness or confidence the speaker is talking with.

    Please correct me if am wrong.

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    Re: indicative vs subjunctive

    *I like to eat some soyabeans.

    is actually incorrect: general reference (as here, to a class of things that a speaker likes or dislikes) is made in English using the undetermined plural form (at least where a plural exists), thus

    I like to eat soyabeans.

    or, more natural still,

    I like eating soyabeans.


    As for

    I would like to eat some soyabeans.

    , it indicates a polite wish, possibly aimed at persuading the interlocutor to provide the items in question, although this would naturally be situation-dependent.

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