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    #1

    Before

    Hello! Teachers:
    Could you check my sentences below?
    1.Before she leaves, she will finish her job.
    2.She will finish her job before leaving.
    3.She will finish her job before she leaves.
    4. Before you leave , He wants to talk to you.
    5. he wants to talk to you before you leave.

    I wonder if I can say
    Before S+be+ Ving, S+ V. ?
    Could you verify them for me?
    Thanks very much!!!

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    #2

    Re: Before

    Though all are correct in Spoken English, 2 and 5 are most common and sound best.

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    Re: Before

    Thanks for abdmlkbd's cerification.
    I also wonder if there is a sentence pattern like:
    Before S+ be+verbing,S+V--

    Could you verify it for me?
    Thanks a lot!

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    #4

    Re: Before

    Yes that is possible! See this sentence:
    Before he is coming i will
    wake up and start work.

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    Re: Before

    Thanks a lot!


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    Re: Before

    Understand that in short sentences like these, as a general rule, the most important 'idea' comes first. In your sentence,
    1.Before she leaves, she will finish her job.

    you are emphasizing 'before she leaves', whereas 'will finish her job' is the main idea, so that the sentence sounds odd.

    Compare,

    Before you leave today, I want all of those leaves raked up.

    Here, the first clause expresses a very strong 'idea' - you are not to leave and come back this afternoon; not leave it till tomorrow or next week - TODAY BEFORE you leave. Hence, the 'before' clause coming first sounds just as good as
    I want all of those leaves raked up before you leave today.

    However, a short phrase like 'before you leave' might come first as an 'attention grabber' = "Listen - before you leave:" and then giving one or two things that must be done. So:
    Before you leave, you must make sure all the windows are closed and all the doors are locked.

    Last edited by David L.; 14-Feb-2009 at 07:02.

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    Re: Before

    Thanks for David's clarification!
    I am learning Time clause.
    I am not clear about the use "before".
    I saw two sentences on-line.
    1 Before he gets married, he'll find a good job.
    2. Before we have a baby, we'll buy a big house.
    So I try to imitate the sentence pattern.
    you are emphasizing 'before she leaves', whereas 'will finish her job' is the main idea, so that the sentence sounds odd.
    So I may not say BeforeS+Verb-----,S+will+V--,may I ?
    Could you verify it for me?
    Thanks a lot!!!


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    Re: Before

    So I may not say BeforeS+Verb-----,S+will+V--,may I ?

    Wuken: be sure to read posts carefully: I gave you examples where I DID use that form.

    The two sentences you now quote are correct. They are of the form 'before this happens/we do this, we must do that/that must happen.'

    Also, be careful with the use of 'will', which also sounds odd: the listener cannot tell whether you mean "she must" or "she intends to". If the former, then it sounds like some very strict teacher speaking in a peremptory manner ( insisting on immediate attention or obedience, in a brusquely imperious way. ) Hece, the sentence would be more likely to occur in the Reported Speech of such a person.

    If the latter, then it would be more colloquial to say "She intends to..." than "She will..."
    Last edited by David L.; 16-Feb-2009 at 05:07.

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    #9

    Re: Before

    Sorry, I misunderstood your mean.
    Thanks for your continued and assistance
    Last edited by WUKEN; 19-Feb-2009 at 07:42. Reason: I have understand the clarifications so I cancel the message I left

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    #10

    Re: Before

    Dear Wuken,
    Please notice this point: We express many things in Speaking, which we don't do in writing.
    I don't know why you're so upset about the structure you're talking about; to help you I say: my study shows that, this structure isn't used in formal writing. However in speaking and story its possible. In English, this point - Formal and Informal usage is quite vital - I think in many languages or may be all languages its important. Please let me know are you satisfied now or not. I'll try more to help if possible!

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