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    Recasting of a few sentences using different collocations with the verb call inste

    Dear teachers,

    Would you be kind enough to tell me your opinion concerning my attempt to recast a few sentences using different collocations with the verb call instead of the italicized words and phrases?

    1.1.I have come to tell you that our exame will be postponed till after tomorrow.
    1.2.I have called to tell you that our exam will be postponed till after tomorrow.

    2.1. When did they mobilize you?
    2.2. When did they call you up?

    3.1. One of the best pupils was told to recite the poem to the rest of the class.
    3.2. On of the best pupils was called out to recite the poem to the rest of the class.

    4.1. Summon the octor at once! The case is urgent.
    4.2. Call in the doctor at once. The case is urgent.

    5.1. He appealed to us to help the pupils that lagged behind.
    5.2. He called on us to help the pupils that lagged behind.

    1.1.Tell them to return.
    1.2.Call them back.

    Thank you for your efforts.

    Regards,

    V.

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    Re: Recasting of a few sentences using different collocations with the verb call i

    They are all fine vil.

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    Re: Recasting of a few sentences using different collocations with the verb call i

    Hello,

    1.1.I have come to tell you that our exam will be postponed till after tomorrow.
    1.2.I have called to tell you that our exam will be postponed till after tomorrow.
    Are the two above equivalent ?

    Does the "I have come" means "so here I am" Is it happening now ?
    Does "I have called " indicate that it's happening now ?

    I'm a bit confused, sorry ... I'm being under the impression that "I'm calling" would be more suitable here.

    Could you clarify that for me please ?

    Cheers

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    Re: Recasting of a few sentences using different collocations with the verb call i

    Hi Jaskin,

    Thank you for showing interest in my work.

    There is my brief explanation of the matter in question:

    call (v) = to pay a short visit: We called to pay our respects. He called on the neighbors but they weren't home.

    have called = Present Perfect

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    Re: Recasting of a few sentences using different collocations with the verb call i

    Hello,
    Thank you for showing interest in my work.
    It's just because I can learn from it.
    Although I didn't think about that meaning of "call" but my question remains unanswered.

    That is why present perfect ??

    Cheers;

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    Re: Recasting of a few sentences using different collocations with the verb call i

    Both 'I have called' and 'I am calling' are fine.

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    Re: Recasting of a few sentences using different collocations with the verb call i

    Hi Jaskin,

    There are a few words concerning the matter in question:

    The Present Perfect denotes a completed action connected with the present.

    Stop that car! They have killed a child. (Dreiser)
    I am a little frightened for I have lost my way. (Dickens)
    I have just written to him. (Dickens)
    He has done a great deal of work of late. (Locke)

    There is a subtle distinction between the Past Indefinite and the Present Perfect.
    An action expressed by the Past Indefinite belongs exclusively to the sphere of the past, while the Present Perfect shows that a past occurance is connectd with the present time.

    She is not well and has changed very much of late.

    She changed very much a great many years ago. (Dickens)

    or

    I have told you three times this week that she is coming home for a year (Dreiser)

    I have just hired a new pianist from St. Joe a Negro. (Dreiser)

    or

    Have you seen him?
    Yes I have.
    but
    I saw him engaged in a lively conversation.

    Regards,

    V.

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    Re: Recasting of a few sentences using different collocations with the verb call i

    Hi vil ;
    Thank you for your explanation. The problem is I'm often forgetting that the person reading my posts isn't a psychic.
    I should have expressed my doubts in more details.

    The Present Perfect denotes a completed action connected with the present.
    That is exactly the reason why I had a problem with the usage of "call" in the present perfect. I was a big assertion on my part that the sentence : “I have come .... “ is said at the beginning of a visit and the person who said that was going to stay for a bit longer.

    Someone could say “I have come ...” at the beginning or in the middle or at the end of the visit.
    The process of moving is finished.
    Whereas “I have called (round)” I think is more (appropriate, suitable or plausible ) at the end of the visit or in the middle.

    I think if said "I have called.. "at the beginning of the visit the listener could assume that the person wasn't going to stay, let say for a coup of tea.

    I hope this time I expressed everything I wanted.
    Thanks again.
    Let me know what you think.


    Best regards
    Last edited by Jaskin; 16-Feb-2009 at 14:51.


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    Re: Recasting of a few sentences using different collocations with the verb call i

    Quote Originally Posted by vil View Post
    Hi Jaskin,

    Thank you for showing interest in my work.

    There is my brief explanation of the matter in question:

    call (v) = to pay a short visit: We called to pay our respects. He called on the neighbors but they weren't home.

    have called = Present Perfect

    Regards,

    V.
    In this context, call is ambiguous. It could be taken to mean" Ring".

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    Re: Recasting of a few sentences using different collocations with the verb call i

    Disclaimer: I'm not a teacher.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaskin View Post
    Someone could say I have come ... at the beginning or in the middle or at the end of the visit.
    The process of moving is finished.
    Whereas I have called (round) I think is more (appropriate, suitable or plausible ) at the end of the visit or in the middle.

    I think if said "I have called.. "at the beginning of the visit the listener could assume that the person wasn't going to stay, let say for a coup of tea.
    Hi Jaskin,

    I understand your reasoning, but in fact it's perfectly acceptable to say "I have called" at the beginning of your visit (or phone call). Sometimes language defies reason.

    On a different note, to my American ears, using "call" to mean "come over; pay a visit" strikes me as archaic. Is this sense of "call" still current in the UK or elsewhere in the world?

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