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    There is / There are

    Hi, could you please tell me which one is correct:

    1. There is an A-4 file and some keys in the bag. or

    2. There are an A-4 file and some keys in the bag.

    Personally, I think "1" is correct as the verb should agrees with the first noun stated, am I right or wrong? Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadrie View Post
    Hi, could you please tell me which one is correct:

    1. There is an A-4 file and some keys in the bag. or

    2. There are an A-4 file and some keys in the bag.

    Personally, I think "1" is correct as the verb should agrees with the first noun stated, am I right or wrong? Thanks in advance.
    Yes, but #2 is better to write while taking a test or an exam.


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    Re: There is / There are

    Thanks for your reply. So, do you mean that both are ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cadrie View Post
    Thanks for your reply. So, do you mean that both are ok?
    Yes.


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    Re: There is / There are

    Sorry - that's not correct.

    The rules are:
    Use the plural form of the verb ONLY if the noun group after is plural:

    There are two men in the group.

    Else, use the singular verb:
    There is a sofa and two chairs in the room.

    This also holds for a list, where the first noun is singular:
    There is a spirit and a will to win in the team.

    Use the plural form in front of plural quantifiers such as 'a lot of', 'a few of'
    There were a lot of people in the room.
    and in front of numbers beginning with 'a' such as 'a hundred', 'a thousand'.
    There are a dozen people in the room.

    Hence, for your sentences, only the first is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    Else, use the singular verb:
    There is a sofa and two chairs in the room.
    There is a sofa and two chairs in the room.

    You could take a sofa and two chairs as a set, as one unit, one thing. Hence, you can easily use the verb form is before it. There is nothing wrong with:

    There are a sofa and two chairs in the room.



    You can usually apply the proximity agreement to sentences with the existential there, but this is not obligatory.


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    Re: There is / There are

    You could take a sofa and two chairs as a set, as one unit, one thing. Hence, you can easily use the verb form 'is' before it.

    That is NOT why the singular verb is used.

    There is nothing wrong with:

    There are a sofa and two chairs in the room.


    Sorry - you're mistaken. (Oh, and I'm talking Brit. Eng. - God knows what some Americans might say, when President Bush comes out with "There is schools in this country...")

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    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    That is NOT why the singular verb is used.
    But could be the case, don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    (Oh, and I'm talking Brit. Eng. - God knows what some Americans might say, when President Bush comes out with "There is schools in this country...")
    It's got nothing to do with American English, David.
    If one fancies saying There's schools..., it's because they want to sound colloquial, or they may be uneducated a bit.


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    Re: There is / There are

    It's got nothing to do with American English, David.

    Good. Then I don't have to consider that avenue.

    There is nothing wrong with:
    There are a sofa and two chairs in the room.

    I reiterate: You are mistaken. That is incorrect grammar.

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