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    Is it fine, please?


    These kids give me a lot of work!


    Is the sentence natural, please?

    Thanks.
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    Re: Is it fine, please?

    Quote Originally Posted by jctgf View Post
    these kids give me a lot of work!


    is the sentence natural, please? not very natural
    you can say...
    'these kids cause me a lot of work.'
    'these kids make me work hard.'

    thanks.
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    Re: Is it fine, please?

    hi,
    it isn't very used in Canada, right?
    after I posted it, I googled the web and found what seemed to be texts written by native speakers with this expression.
    could it be common in the Usa?
    thanks.

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    Smile Re: Is it fine, please?

    Quote Originally Posted by jctgf View Post
    hi,
    it isn't very used in Canada, right?
    after I posted it, I googled the web and found what seemed to be texts written by native speakers with this expression.
    could it be common in the Usa?
    thanks.
    It's all right. Similarly:
    These kids are giving me trouble!
    The noise is giving me a headache!


    The use of the continuous form gives the sentences emphasis.

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    Re: Is it fine, please?

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    It's all right. Similarly:
    These kids are giving me trouble!
    The noise is giving me a headache!


    The use of the continuous form gives the sentences emphasis.
    I agree.

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    Smile Re: Is it fine, please?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    I agree.

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    Re: Is it fine, please?

    Quote Originally Posted by jctgf View Post
    hi,
    it isn't very used in canada, right?
    After i posted it, i googled the web and found what seemed to be texts written by native speakers with this expression.
    exactly which expression(s) did you find?
    there is a difference between sentences like 'these kids give me a lot of work.' and 'these kids are giving me trouble.'

    when we are talking about people as the subject of a sentence, "give" suggests a deliberate intentional action causing a certain (effect)(result), or at least suggests that the people 'giving' should realize that their action would cause such a result.


    the teacher gives the kids a lot of work. natural
    these kids (are giving)(give) me trouble. natural

    these kids give me a lot of work. not very natural

    maybe these kids are very young and they're just being kids. They have no awareness of the fact they are (making)(causing) a lot of work for me.

    maybe these kids are not so young. Maybe there are just many of them or their lives are very busy, and they (make)(cause) a lot of work for me.

    so your boss, teacher or parents can give you a lot of work (to do), but the idea of kids giving someone a lot of work doesn't sound natural. Kids causing or making work for someone sounds much more natural.

    thanks.
    engee30 and bhaisahab like to work as a tag team supporting each other, but note that one of them is not a native speaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2006 View Post
    engee30 and bhaisahab like to work as a tag team supporting each other,
    That is not true.

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    Re: Is it fine, please?

    I should add that of course any poster can say they agree with a previous poster. But when A says something and B agrees, A's coming back with a thumbs up takes it one step too far and makes one wonder what the motivation is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2006 View Post
    is the sentence natural, please? not very natural
    you can say...
    'these kids cause me a lot of work.'
    'these kids make me work hard.'
    In what respect do these sentences of yours above differ from the following?
    These kids give me a lot of work.

    Having read your last post in this thread, I can't see any significant difference.

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