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    Post which or who?  the or Φ? singular or prurals?

    Could you tell me the correct ones?
    1-1. Which is taller, you or I?
    1-2. Which is the taller, you or I?
    1-3. Who is taller, you or I?
    1-4. Who is the taller, you or I?

    2-1. Which is taller, Jane or Mike?
    2-2. Which is the taller, Jane or Mike?
    2-3. Who is taller, Jane or Mike?
    2-4. Who is the taller, Jane or Mike?

    3-1. Who has more classes each week,
        Japanese students or American students?
    3-2. Who have more classes each week,
        Japanese students or American students?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshihiro View Post
    could you tell me the correct ones?
    1-1. Which is taller, you or i?
    1-2. Which is the taller, you or i?
    1-3. Who is taller, you or i?
    1-4. Who is the taller, you or i?

    2-1. Which is taller, jane or mike?
    2-2. Which is the taller, jane or mike?
    2-3. Who is taller, jane or mike?
    2-4. Who is the taller, jane or mike?

    3-1. Who has more classes each week,
        japanese students or american students?
    3-2. Who have more classes each week,
        japanese students or american students?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshihiro View Post
    could you tell me the correct ones?
    1-1. which is taller, you or i?
    1-2. which is the taller, you or i?
    1-3. Who is taller, you or i?
    1-4. who is the taller, you or i?

    2-1. which is taller, jane or mike?
    2-2. which is the taller, jane or mike?
    2-3. Who is taller, jane or mike?
    2-4. who is the taller, jane or mike?

    3-1. Who has more classes each week,
        Japanese students or American students?

    3-2. who have more classes each week,
        japanese students or american students?
    :-d


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    I would say , who HAVE more classes.

    Reason being that WHO HAS sounds singular, whilst WHO Have sounds plural.

    I am not a teacher, so please excuse my thinking.

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    Re: which or who?  the or Φ? singular or prurals?

    Who is taller?
    Who has more?




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    Who is taller...?
    John is the taller of the boys.

    Kitosdad: I would say , who HAVE more classes. ("students' is plural)


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    Re: Re: which or who?  the or Φ? singular or prurals?

    I found these questions in the report of Japanese professor Mr. Yabe.
    His report says as follows.

    [quotation ~ in part and edited by me]
    1. Huddleston
    1.1 There's no doubt that _which_ can be used of people, but I agree that in your pair (1-2), it is (1) that is used.
    (1) Who is younger, Bill or John?
    (2) Which is younger, Bill or John?

    1.2 Assuming a context where there has been prior mention of the two new students, (1-3) are OK. (1-2) require such a context, but (3) doesn't, and if there hasn't been such mention then we need “who.” Is that OK?
    (1) Which is younger?
    (2) Which one is younger?
    (3) Which is younger, Yusuke or Makoto?

    2. conclusion
    (1) a. Who is taller, Jane or Mike?
       b. *Which is taller, Jane or Mike?
    (2) a. *Who is the taller, you or I?
       b. Which is the taller, you or I?


    My current answers to my own questions are

    1-1. Which is taller, you or I?
    1-2. Which is the taller, you or I? ✔
    1-3. Who is taller, you or I?
    1-4. Who is the taller, you or I?

    2-1. Which is taller, Jane or Mike?
    2-2. Which is the taller, Jane or Mike?
    2-3. Who is taller, Jane or Mike? ✔
    2-4. Who is the taller, Jane or Mike?

    3-1. Who has more classes each week,
        Japanese students or American students?  ✔
    3-2. Who have more classes each week,
        Japanese students or American students?

    are they correct?
    Last edited by Yoshihiro; 02-Mar-2009 at 18:00.


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    Who is taller, John or Paul?
    John is the taller of the boys.

    Kitosdad: I would say , who HAVE more classes. ("students' is plural)

    In your first example [9], the word 'contestant' is understood:
    Yoshihiro: In your sentences as you gave them to us, you are referring to real live people! There is no prior reference to their being "contestants" or "dwarfs" or any category.

    Slovinsky and Gruder-Beyer have both proved themselves strong athletes over the longer distances. Which (do you think) is the faster over the 100m, (Slovinsky or Gruder-Beyer)?
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    Re: which or who?  the or Φ? singular or prurals?

    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    Who is taller...?
    John is the taller of the boys.

    Kitosdad: I would say , who HAVE more classes. ("students' is plural)
    Yoshihiro,

    When you ask about the subject (the doer) you obviously do not know who. As when you hear someone
    knocking at the door, you would normally ask,: "Who is it?", even if there are ten people at the door.

    The same applies to the question: "Who is taller?" above. The question is about the subject and so it has to be formed in the singular form, simply because we do not know the doer.


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    Re: which or who?  the or Φ? singular or prurals?

    The same applies to the question: "Who is taller?" above. The question is about the subject and so it has to be formed in the singular form, simply because we do not know the doer.

    No.
    A comparison of the kind 'bigger'/'taller' is of two people/things. Hence, the one who/which is taller/bigger is obviously singular: "Which is..."

    I'm not sure what you mean about the 'doer' in the sentence.

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