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    Present perfect

    I've taken this site's quizzes about present perfect grammar. And by that, I withdraw the meanings of two below sentences, but I am not sure that they're right. So please correct me, if I am wrong. Thanks.

    She's gone to Rome, that means: She's not come back.
    She's been to Rome, that means: She's come back.

    Thanks so much,

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    Re: Present perfect

    Quote Originally Posted by dkth1nh View Post
    I've taken this site's quizzes about present perfect grammar. And by that, I withdraw the meanings of two below sentences, but I am not sure that they're right. So please correct me, if I am wrong. Thanks.

    She's gone to Rome, that means: She's not come back.
    She's been to Rome, that means: She's come back.

    Thanks so much,
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    Re: Present perfect

    dkth1nh:
    You do understand that it is not actually the Present Perfect form of the verb that determines whether the person is in Rome or home, but the very words 'to go - past participle 'gone') and 'to be - past participle 'been' ?

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    Re: Present perfect

    Yes, I do. These main verbs make it. Anyway, thanks everybody.

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    Re: Present perfect

    Quote Originally Posted by dkth1nh View Post
    I've taken this site's quizzes about present perfect grammar. And by that, I withdraw the meanings of two below sentences, but I am not sure that they're right. So please correct me, if I am wrong. Thanks.

    She's gone to Rome, that means: She's not come back.
    She's been to Rome, that means: She's come back.

    Thanks so much,
    All good advice. Also, keep in mind that you can also say: "She's gone to Rome many times," or: "She's gone to Rome for the past three summers."

    David - Is that just American usage, or is it British, too?


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    |Charlie: David - Is that just American usage, or is it British, too?

    It may be because I need another (oh so British) cup of tea, but what you are asking finds no resonance in me apropos what I wrote in this thread.

    I'm sure that by the time you patiently help me here by posting a hint, a cup of tea will have boosted the pilot light that will get my generator going for the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Bernstein View Post
    All good advice. Also, keep in mind that you can also say: "She's gone to Rome many times," or: "She's gone to Rome for the past three summers."

    David - Is that just American usage, or is it British, too?
    I don't think you can say so. Gone to means is there now, or on the way; been to means has returned from there. Gone to used with adverbials such as many times and for the past three summers make no sense to me.

    Try:
    She's travelled to Rome many times.
    She's travelled to Rome for the past three summers.


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    Engee: I don't think you can say so. 'Gone to' means 'is there now', or 'on the way'; been to means has returned from there'. 'Gone to' used with adverbials such as 'many times' and 'for the past three summers' make no sense to me.

    No no no.

    I still need another cup of tea and I'll be back to tease this one out.

    But then: list and learn, list and learn, as this humble apprentice, a mere witness in awe of the artisan wordsmiths who have crafted my language, dares presume to elucidate the inner workings of their minds when they bequeathed "gone" to us.
    Last edited by David L.; 07-Mar-2009 at 10:34.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    No no no.
    Why, no, sir!

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    Talking Re: Present perfect

    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post

    But then: list and learn, list and learn, as this humble apprentice, a mere witness in awe of the artisan wordsmiths who have crafted my language, dares presume to elucidate the inner workings of their minds when they bequeathed "gone" to us.
    Don't you happen to be a bard or something?

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