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  1. Unregistered
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    Exclamation Present perfect and con

    Please check my understanding that I am correct or not. if not please correct them as well, thanks
    -It has rained (it rained in the past up to now, it is still raining. this sentence emphasize that the action takes very long time)
    -It has been raining (the explanation is the same as the first one but it emphasize that the action is temporary)
    ***-The children have eaten lunch. You can see the stain on the plates.
    ***-The children have eaten lunch. (now they are still eating but emphasize the action takes very long time)
    -The children have been eating lunch. (now they are still eating(temporary))

    The thing that I confuse is can it be translated into 2 meaning(from The children have eaten lunch) or I just misunderstand?


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    #2

    Re: Present perfect and con

    I don't know, but I wanna know too.


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    Re: Present perfect and con

    Unregistered:

    check the following:
    ***-The children have eaten lunch. You can see the stain on the plates.
    ***-The children have eaten lunch. (now they are still eating but emphasize the action takes very long time)
    -The children have been eating lunch. (now they are still eating(temporary))


    Should the second of these sentences have a different form of the verb? You give a different interpretation for it.

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    Re: Present perfect and con

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    ***-The children have eaten lunch. (now they are still eating but emphasize the action takes very long time)
    No, if they are still eating you can't say have eaten. Instead, say: "The children are eating lunch."


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    Re: Present perfect and con

    So - let's work on the assumption of the following (as suggested by BobK), till Unregistered tells us otherwise.
    1. -The children are eating lunch. (now they are still eating but emphasize the action takes very long time)
    2. -The children have eaten lunch. You can see the stain on the plates
    3. The children have been eating lunch. (now they are still eating(temporary))


    Any non-native speakers like to give their thoughts on what these verb forms convey to them?

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