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    will/would

    After having reviewed dozens of women's self defense videos and attending a number of women's self defense seminars, I felt that a practical and useful video on women's self defense was needed. The reason is most of what is being taught will/would probably not work in a real attack or confrontation.

    Should 'will' or 'would' be used?

    Many thanks.

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    Re: will/would

    I'd probably use would, but I don't think there'd be any strong objections to will. Let's see what others say.

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    Re: will/would

    Grammatically, either will do. Sense-wise, 'would' is clearly the better choice, since the situation being envisaged is hypothetical rather than one actually expected to occur in the future.

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    #4

    Re: will/would

    I would say would. Definitely.


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    #5

    Re: will/would

    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee View Post
    I would say would. Definitely.

    jeje, here we go again...

    I would use will, definitely:)

    (by the way, I showed the thread on going to and will to my poor student who had her exam on Thursday. she was enchanted to see that she was not the only one to have doubts! )

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    #6

    Re: will/would

    Hi Heidita

    Are you saying that you will use 'will'? If so, could you please explain why?

    Many thanks.

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    #7

    Re: will/would

    The reason is most of what is being taught will probably not work in a real attack or confrontation.

    I would use will . Will probably is as hypothetical here as would probably. However, the use of would does give a more hypothetical sense to the sentence as it were. And I think the idea of a self-defense course should be to learn how to defend yourself. It is not logical for this author to use would here if (s)he is recommending a video made by herself/himself whose teaching actually will work.

    In any case, the sentence is pure nonsense. So this author is just making publicity for his/her own video as all the other videos (s)he has reviewed are no good and none of those indications given in those videos will actually work, however he or she has made a video whose indications will work! Silly.

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    Re: will/would

    Quote Originally Posted by heidita View Post
    The reason is most of what is being taught will probably not work in a real attack or confrontation.

    I would use will . Will probably is as hypothetical here as would probably. However, the use of would does give a more hypothetical sense to the sentence as it were. And I think the idea of a self-defense course should be to learn how to defend yourself. It is not logical for this author to use would here if (s)he is recommending a video made by herself/himself whose teaching actually will work.
    I don't entirely disagree. Perhaps:
    The reason is most of what is being taught will probably not work if there is a real attack.


    Quote Originally Posted by heidita View Post
    In any case, the sentence is pure nonsense. So this author is just making publicity for his/her own video as all the other videos (s)he has reviewed are no good and none of those indications given in those videos will actually work, however he or she has made a video whose indications will work! Silly.
    What she is saying is:
    None of the others are any good. Don't buy any of them. Instead, buy mine.

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    #9

    Re: will/would

    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee View Post
    I don't entirely disagree. Perhaps:
    The reason is most of what is being taught will probably not work if there is a real attack.


    That's what I had in mind Ron, thanks.



    What she is saying is:
    None of the others are any good. Don't buy any of them. Instead, buy mine.
    Yay, and isn't she full of herself!!

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    #10

    Re: will/would

    Many thanks to all of you.

    Besides Heidita, the other members say it should be 'would'. I understand their reasoning just as much as I understand Hediita's.

    English is certainly very complicated because sometimes what is correct is arguable, as on this topic.

    To make matters worse, my command of English is not good enough compared with native speakers'.

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