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    relative clause

    Does the relative pronoun have to come immediately after the word it refers to? Ex: They employ famous people for their companies that/who create great trousers.

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    Re: relative clause

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine View Post
    Does the relative pronoun have to come immediately after the word it refers to? Ex: They employ famous people for their companies that create great trousers.

    Thank you in advance!
    I think it has to come immediately after the word it refers to. At least, I can't think of an exception.

    A company is not a "who"; "companies that create" is correct.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2006 View Post
    I think it has to come immediately after the word it refers to. At least, I can't think of an exception.

    A company is not a "who"; "companies that create" is correct.
    Sunshine,
    A good question. The relative pronoun doesn't always have to come right after its referent:

    "There are people here who disagree with you."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabber View Post
    Sunshine,
    A good question. The relative pronoun doesn't always have to come right after its referent:

    "There are people here who disagree with you."
    Thanks for resolving that convincingly. I'm not surprised that I was wrong, and you gave a good example.


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    Thanks for your answers.
    But 2006, I think you misunderstood my sentence. I wanted the that/who to relate to the people and not to the company. Apparently, the pronoun has to come directly after the word it refers to, otherwise you would have understood the sentence as I wanted yout to understand it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine View Post
    thanks for your answers.
    But 2006, i think you misunderstood my sentence. I wanted the that/who to relate to the people and not to the company.
    but the way you wrote the sentence, "that" refers to companies.


    if you want "who" to refer to people, the sentence should be something like the following.
    'they employ famous people who create great trousers for their companies.'

    apparently, the pronoun has to come directly after the word it refers to, otherwise you would have understood the sentence as i wanted yout to understand it...
    yes, most often the pronoun comes directly after the word it refers to. But it can come not directly after, but soon after, as in gabber's example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunshine View Post
    Thanks for your answers.
    But 2006, I think you misunderstood my sentence. I wanted the that/who to relate to the people and not to the company. Apparently, the pronoun has to come directly after the word it refers to, otherwise you would have understood the sentence as I wanted yout to understand it...
    Yes; the further the relative pronoun from its referent, the greater the likelihood of misunderstanding.

    1. I met a traveller from an antique land, quite near a statue of Ozymandias, King of Kings, very impressively executed by a sculptor of my acquaintance, who said, Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPedantic View Post
    Yes; the further the relative pronoun from its referent, the greater the likelihood of misunderstanding.
    Hello

    What nice verbless clauses! Why do we drop the verb(s) sometimes? Speed?

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    Re: relative clause

    It interests me too, Svart. I suppose the copula is understood.

    It's particularly common in this structure:

    1. The [comparative] the X, the [comparative] the Y.

    I can't think of any others; but maybe another member can.

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    Re: relative clause

    Another question....

    In the following sentence the relative pronoun doesn't come after the word it refers to, either. But the example is similar to the one above with "here". So, would you say that the relative pronoun refers in the following sentence to "people"?

    "People in poor countries who produce trousers are able to help their families with the wages which they get."

    Thanks in advance, you're really great help!

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