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    who & whom

    Hi there,

    I hear people use both who and whom in below sentence.

    - She likes my friend who (whom) I think is clever.

    I think 'who' should be gramatically right but lots of people use 'whom' as they think it feels right. I was just wondering if there is any difference between them. My aussie friend says that 'whom' feels like a bit older than 'who'. What do you think?

    Would appreciate your help.
    Last edited by toskim; 22-Apr-2009 at 08:29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toskim View Post
    Hi there,

    I hear people use both who and whom in below sentence.

    - She likes my friend who (whom) I think is clever.

    I think 'who' should be gramatically right but lots of people use 'whom' as they think it feels right. I was just wondering if there is any difference between them. My aussie friend says that 'whom' feels like a bit older than 'who'. What do you think?

    Would appreciate your help.
    Whom in this case is incorrect.
    She likes my friend who (I think) is clever.
    She likes my friend who is clever, I think.

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    Re: who & whom

    Beg to differ there!

    She likes my friend who (whom) I think is clever.

    I think he/she (the friend) is clever.
    I subject, he/she object.

    You should use whom as the object of the verb. Use who as the subject of the verb.
    She likes my friend whom I think is clever.

    That said, no one cares much anymore, and lots of people use who for whom. Just watch out for the Grammar Police, they are mean!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedroski View Post

    I think he/she (the friend) is clever.
    I subject, he/she object.

    You should use whom as the object of the verb. Use who as the subject of the verb.
    Couldn't agree more, Pedroski.

    She likes my friend who I think is clever.
    She likes [whom?] my friend who is clever. - my friend who is clever is the object of likes
    who is clever - who is the subject in this clause; you couldn't use whom here, could you?

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    Re: who & whom

    In the relative clause after my friend......
    The verb in question is think, the subject of this verb is I, its object should be whom.

    You're ok, they chucked me out of the Grammar Police!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedroski View Post
    In the relative clause after my friend......
    The verb in question is think, the subject of this verb is I, its object should be whom.

    You're ok, they chucked me out of the Grammar Police!
    That relative clause who I think is clever is made up of two clauses - who is clever and I think, who and I being the subjects.

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    Re: who & whom

    Hi toskim

    Your friend is right about whom sounding outdated. Speakers will drop the -m.

    From a grammatical standpoint, though, whom doesn't work here:
    Ex: She likes my friend whom I think is clever.
    Test it: I think he is clever. / I think who is clever.
    Because 'he' is the subject of the verb 'is', it's replaced by who, not whom. Use who for subjects and whom for objects.

    Repair: She likes my friend who I think is clever.

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