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    Please, which morphemes of the following words lexical and which are grammatical?
    benighted
    oxen
    ghastlier
    two-handed
    detective
    tympani
    servant
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    Which do you think?

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    Re: morpheme

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    Which do you think?

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    I think that the following red morphemes are grammatical and the black ones are lexical

    benighted
    oxen

    ghastlier
    two-handed
    detective
    tympani
    servant

    Am I right?
    I don't know the answer of "tympani"
    I want an explanation for the words "benighted" and "oxen", please


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    Re: morpheme

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    I think that the following red morphemes are grammatical and the black ones are lexical
     
     benighted
     oxen
     ghastlier
     two-handed
     detective
     tympani
     servant 
     
    Am I right?
    I don't know the answer of "tympani"
    I want an explanation for the words "benighted" and "oxen", please


    I also don't find the anwser of "tympani"
    For the word "benighted" i think it is lexical,bcuz benighted is an adjective,it hás no grammaltical change
    Oxen
    Ox is a singular
    Oxen is a plural

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    Re: morpheme

    Quote Originally Posted by phanshishui View Post
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    I think that the following red morphemes are grammatical and the black ones are lexical
     
     benighted
     oxen
     ghastlier
     two-handed
     detective
     tympani
     servant 
     
    Am I right?
    I don't know the answer of "tympani"
    I want an explanation for the words "benighted" and "oxen", please


    I also don't find the anwser of "tympani"
    For the word "benighted" i think it is lexical,bcuz benighted is an adjective,it hás no grammaltical change
    Oxen
    Ox is a singular
    Oxen is a plural
    Yes - like "oxen" 'tympani' is an irregular plural - referring to the kettle drums (tunable, apparently made of brass). There is a singular tympanum, used to refer to the ear drum (the membrane in the ear that detects sound), but I've never hear a musician using the singular; there are usually two (tuned to the tonic and dominant of the home key), or three - or even more. Some composers score for as many as five in a 'big' work (Te Deum, Berlioz?-)). And rather than using the irregular plural (rather too formal for a musician) they tend to call them 'tymps'.

    My tendency, as a student of philology, is to regard your answer for serv-ant as right, because the -ant does come from a Latin morpheme. But I think most teachers would regard the English word 'servant' as a single lexical morpheme. (?? Other views?)

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    Re: morpheme

    Mr Bobk,
    Thank you for this useful post
    so the word tympani consists of two morphemes? which is the lexical and which is the grammatical?
    what about words like data, datum, and sheep?

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    Re: morpheme

    Quote Originally Posted by sash2008 View Post
    Mr Bobk,
    Thank you for this useful post
    so the word tympani consists of two morphemes? which is the lexical and which is the grammatical?
    what about words like data, datum, and sheep?
    The only simple one of those is "sheep"; it is lexical. I suppose you could say 'to form the plural add the null morpheme' [that is, add nothing], but why bother?

    Some Standard Englishes (such as NZ, I think) treat "data" as plural: 'the data are inconsistent'. Many users in UK and USA don't - 'data' is a mass noun like 'sugar'. Etymologically it has a plural ending, but in my view 'data' is a lexical morpheme - as is 'datum' (which in any case is very rarely used, except in scientific contexts - where it is often translated into the friendlier form 'a given').

    Similarly, the '-i' of tympani is etymologically speaking morphemic. But in a description of current English I'd call 'tympani' a free (lexical) morpheme.

    But, to quote a tenet of British law, 'hard cases make bad law'. I wouldn't go to the wall for any analysis based on irregular plurals.

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