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    Please help...

    I've 2 questions on grammar:

    (a) Carl is one of the few pupils in my school who [is or are] able to score straight A's every year.

    (b) If only you [came/ had come] to me earlier, I could have helped you.

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    Re: Please help...

    Quote Originally Posted by dixon999 View Post
    I've 2 questions on grammar:

    (a) Carl is one of the few pupils in my school who [is or are] able to score straight A's every year.

    (b) If only you [came/ had come] to me earlier, I could have helped you.
    a) "are". Of the few pupils in my school who are able to score straight A's every year, Carl is one.
    b) "had come" is strictly correct, but many people would say "came".

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    Re: Please help...

    Quote Originally Posted by dixon999 View Post
    I've 2 questions on grammar:

    (a) Carl is one of the few pupils in my school who [is or are] able to score straight A's every year.

    (b) If only you [came/ had come] to me earlier, I could have helped you.
    (a) are: in this 'one of the NPs who/that...' construction the antecedent of the relative pronoun is always the plural NP.
    (Cf. 'the only one of ...', where the verb is always singular.)

    (b) had come: it is a third conditional, relating to a counterfactual past event.

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    Re: Please help...

    In my opinion
    a) are : is the correct word used in the first sentence
    b)came: is the correct word for second.


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    Re: Please help...

    (a) Carl is one of the few pupils in my school who [is or are] able to score straight A's every year.

    After expressions such as 'one of the...', singular and plural verbs are both used in relative clauses beginning 'who', 'which' `and 'that'.
    Hence, BOTH are now considered correct, and the speaker's choice of verb - 'is' or 'are' - depends on whether his point of view is of Carl, or 'the few pupils who are able'.

    "She is one of the few women who has/have climbed Everest."
    "This is one of those books that are/is read by everybody."
    "That is one of the things that drives me crazy about him."

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    Re: Please help...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomxyz View Post
    b)came: is the correct word for second.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    b) "had come" is strictly correct, but many people would say "came".
    'came' does not work, in my opinion. Could someone elaborate on that?

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    Re: Please help...

    Many people may say it, just as they may say, "I seen 'im at the pitchers*."

    It's poor grammar.

    * = 'pictures' pronounced as 'pitchers' = movies

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    Re: Please help...

    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    (a) Carl is one of the few pupils in my school who [is or are] able to score straight A's every year.

    After expressions such as 'one of the...', singular and plural verbs are both used in relative clauses beginning 'who', 'which' `and 'that'.
    Hence, BOTH are now considered correct, and the speaker's choice of verb - 'is' or 'are' - depends on whether his point of view is of Carl, or 'the few pupils who are able'.

    "She is one of the few women who has/have climbed Everest."
    "This is one of those books that are/is read by everybody."
    "That is one of the things that drives me crazy about him."
    With respect, I disagree, and stand by my previous comment.
    Perhaps other natives would care to comment.

    EOC

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    Re: Please help...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomxyz View Post
    In my opinion
    a) are : is the correct word used in the first sentence
    b)came: is the correct word for second.


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    b. 'Had come' is correct.

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    Re: Please help...

    Quote Originally Posted by philo2009 View Post
    With respect, I disagree, and stand by my previous comment.
    Perhaps other natives would care to comment.

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    Four native speakers have given their opinions. Only one suggests that "is" is possible.

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