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    Spanish or Spaniard?

    ok,I know that both are ajectives,but when to use them correctly?
    ex-"Why the Spanish won?"...in this sentence why Spaniard is not used?
    ...thanks a lot for your help!

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    Re: Spanish or Spaniard?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lacretstreet View Post
    ok,I know that both are ajectives,but when to use them correctly?
    ex-"Why the Spanish won?"...in this sentence why Spaniard is not used?
    ...thanks a lot for your help!
    [I am not a teacher]
    I believe there's no difference between them except for the fact that I have never seen people use 'Spaniard' to qualify anything else but people. So, it would be:

    That Spanish woman won the prize.
    Spaniard dogs can imitate people.
    Spaniards know how to dance.

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    Re: Spanish or Spaniard?

    Thanks...so I can say then:
    a-The Spaniard has five Spanish dogs
    assuming that the Spaniard is a person …ok?
    b-Those Spanish shoes were brought by five Spaniards…ok?
    Thanks again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacretstreet View Post
    Thanks...so I can say then:
    a-The Spaniard has five Spanish dogs
    assuming that the Spaniard is a person …ok?
    b-Those Spanish shoes were brought by five Spaniards…ok?
    Thanks again...
    [I am not a teacher]
    Yes, they are fine!


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    Re: Spanish or Spaniard?

    Hi

    Spaniard is a (pro)noun used to refer to someone who comes from Spain.
    Spanish is a more generic term meant to describe something or someone that is related to Spain.

    Five Spaniards came.
    Spaniards are nice people.
    Spanish people are nice.
    Five Spanish came.
    Five Spanish people came.

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    Re: Spanish or Spaniard?

    Quote Originally Posted by svartnik View Post
    Your member type on the top right corner of your posts states that clearly. I do not really understand why you felt the need to restate that.
    You are welcome to answer questions posted in the Ask a Teacher forum as long as your suggestions, help, and advice reflect a good understanding of the English language. If you are not a teacher, you will need to state that clearly at the top of your post. Please note, all posts are moderated by our in-house language experts, so make sure your suggestions, help, and advice house the kind of information an international language teacher would offer. If not, and your posts do not contribute to the topic in a positive way, they will be subject to deletion.
    guess where I found it.


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    Re: Spanish or Spaniard?

    Quote Originally Posted by svartnik View Post
    Your member type on the top right corner of your posts states that clearly.
    I guess here. ;)


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    Re: Spanish or Spaniard?

    Further to this:
    https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/a...tml#post482334

    We have a saying in the Hungarian language:
    Ha azt mondják hogy ugorj a tóba akkor beleugrasz? That is,
    If they recommended that you jump in the lake, would you do that head first?
    Follow the rule to the spirit, and not to the letter.

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    Re: Spanish or Spaniard?

    Note also that in this age of political correctness, using nouns to describe nationalities, even with no ill intent, can still sound slightly insensitive.... native speakers usually try to avoid this.

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    Re: Spanish or Spaniard?

    Quote Originally Posted by konungursvia View Post
    Note also that in this age of political correctness, using nouns to describe nationalities, even with no ill intent, can still sound slightly insensitive.... native speakers usually try to avoid this.
    How would they describe nationalities then?

    South Africans like football.
    People from South Africa like football.

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