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    Hi,

    I always asking myself when I should use didn't vs haven't. Example:

    Should I say " I haven't found it yet" or "I didn't find it yet". Which one is correct.

    Thank you for your help

    Denis Sicard

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    Re: Using did vs have

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Hi,

    I always asking myself when I should use didn't vs haven't. Example:

    Should I say " I haven't found it yet" or "I didn't find it yet". Which one is correct.

    Thank you for your help

    Denis Sicard
    Basically, there are words in the sentence that help you decide which tense to choose (Past Simple, Present Simple, Past Perfect, Present Perfect etc)

    "yet" - is a time expression of Present Perfect. It means that the action has started but isn't over yet, it is still going on.

    In order to understand when to use "did" and when to use "have" you must understand the basic difference between Past Simple and Present Perfect.

    We use Past Simple when something happened in the past and it is over, it has no affect on the present situation. (Time expressions of Past Simple are: last week, three months ago, a minute ago and alike)

    For example: He broke his leg yesterday -
    He broke his leg in the past, but now his leg isn't broken anymore.

    We use Present Perfect when an action is incomplete - it happened in the past but it is still going on, it is not over yet, it has an affect on the present situation.

    For example: He has broken his leg some time ago-
    He broke his leg and it is still in a broken condition by the time this sentence is said.

    Another example: "I have never seen this movie before"
    The action happened or didn't happen in the past and it is still continuing in the present.

    Generally speaking, words like "before, yet, never, ever" usually (not always!) require the use of Present Perfect.

    As for your example: The correct sentence would be "I haven't found it yet" because "yet" is a time expression used in Present Perfect and it means that the action that had started in the past is not over yet.


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    Re: Using did vs have

    wise owl,

    Your explanation is impressive.

    In American English, the word "yet" can be used in the past tense, can't it?

    yet
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    1 used in negative sentences and questions to talk about sth that has not happened but that you expect to happen: (BrE) I havenít received a letter from him yet. (NAmE) I didnít receive a letter from him yet. ĎAre you ready?í ĎNo, not yet.í We have yet to decide what action to take (= We have not decided what action to take).

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    Re: Using did vs have

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Hi,

    I always asking myself when I should use didn't vs haven't. Example:

    Should I say " I haven't found it yet" or "I didn't find it yet". Which one is correct.

    Thank you for your help

    Denis Sicard
    I'd advise you to use "I haven't found it yet".
    You might hear Americans say the second version, because they tend to use the simple past for the present perfect, at least in positive sentences such as:
    "Did you have breakfast yet?" for "Have you had breakfast yet?"
    I'd assume that the correct negative for the first is:
    "No, I didn't have breakfast yet" (AmE) - as in Daruma's examples.

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    [quote=Daruma;484576]

    In American English, the word "yet" can be used in the past tense, can't it?
    Of course it can! Ignore what wise owl said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daruma View Post

    In American English, the word "yet" can be used in the past tense, can't it?
    Of course it can! Ignore what wise owl said.
    But not in British English.

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    [quote=bhaisahab;484896]
    Quote Originally Posted by 2006 View Post
    But not in British English.
    Modern British English is heavily influenced by American English, so some contrasts are disappearing!

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    [quote=marciobarbalho;484916]
    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Modern British English is heavily influenced by American English, so some contrasts are disappearing!
    This one isn't, and long may it not!

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    Re: Using did vs have

    [quote=marciobarbalho;484916]
    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Modern British English is heavily influenced by American English, so some contrasts are disappearing!
    I would strongly dispute "heavily influenced"; where do you get your data?

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    [quote=bhaisahab;485020]
    Quote Originally Posted by marciobarbalho View Post

    I would strongly dispute "heavily influenced"; where do you get your data?
    Practical English Usage. Mr Swan.
    Last edited by Offroad; 18-Jun-2009 at 09:44.

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