1. will

Hi, everybody.
We say:
That will be Tim coming home now.
As you will have noticed, there are some gaps in the data.
They will have made the decision last week.
Can we say:
"What do you mean, there are only ten tickets? There will be twelve."?

2. Re: will

Originally Posted by norwolf
Hi, everybody.
We say:
That will be Tim coming home now.
As you will have noticed, there are some gaps in the data.
They will have made the decision last week.
Can we say:
"What do you mean, there are only ten tickets? There will be twelve."?

No,".....there should be twelve."

3. Re: will

Originally Posted by bhaisahab
No,".....there should be twelve."
Thank you, bhaisahab.
I learnt this from LONGMAN dictionary:
WILL:
6belief used to say that you think something is true

The last doesn't work like the rest, does it?
And why?

4. Re: will

Originally Posted by norwolf
Thank you, bhaisahab.
I learnt this from LONGMAN dictionary:
WILL:
6belief used to say that you think something is true

The last doesn't work like the rest, does it?
And why?
This conversation is possible:
A: There will be 12 tickets in the envelope.
B: There are only 10.
A: There should be 12!

A cannot assert that he believes there are 12 after B has told him that there are only 10.
This construction is only a very mild expression of belief; it's more an expression of an expectation. It's not used against a reasonable statement to the contrary.

5. Re: will

"What do you mean, there are only ten tickets? There will be twelve!" [Strong accent on will.]

The last bit, 'There will be twelve!' is not wrong if you get rid of the question mark in your original version. It is not a question. Add the bit below in brackets to clarify the sentence if you like.

"What do you mean, there are only ten tickets? There will be twelve (on the night, if I have my way! ")

Or as already mentioned use should, but no question mark.

6. Re: will

That will be Tim coming home now.

This is supposed to express probability. I think all future events are probabilities until they have happened.

But the expression, though very common is mad!

That ( noise I just heard [PAST tense], doorbell, garden gate ) will be [FUTURE tense although it's happening now] Tim coming home ( arriving now).

So an event in the past, (noise heard) will in the future be something that is happening right now! Time is an illusion!

7. Re: will

Originally Posted by Pedroski
So an event in the past, (noise heard) will in the future be something that is happening right now! Time is an illusion!
Wife: That'll be the phone, Bert.
(That noise we have just noticed will, on further investigation, turn out to be the telephone ringing, in my opinion, Bert.
)

8. Re: will

What do you mean, there are only ten tickets? There would be twelve.[Strong accent on would]
(There would be twelve, but I am not sure.)

9. Re: will

And this:
What do you mean, there are only ten tickets? There shall be twelve.(regulation or the speaker's guarantee)

10. Re: will

Originally Posted by norwolf
And this:
What do you mean, there are only ten tickets? There shall be twelve.(regulation or the speaker's guarantee)
There shall be 12! I will make it so!

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