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    apostrophe 's or s'

    Angus's parents

    Angus' room parents

    Which is the correct version?

    Many thanks.

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    Post Re: apostrophe 's or s'

    I'd say Angus's (just like James's, Alex's, the Prince of Wales's, Strauss's)


    ' (only apostrophe) goes with:
    - unusual or classical names (e.g. Archimedes', Pepys'),
    - fixed expressions of the type for ... sake (for goodness' sake)
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    plural nouns ending in -s (e.g. the heroes' courage, the Joneses' house)
    - Mrs. Onassis' jewels, Moses' times (because the last syllable has not more than four letters and not only begins but also ends in 's') ;)

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    Re: apostrophe 's or s'

    Quote Originally Posted by nyota View Post
    I'd say Angus's (just like James's, Alex's, the Prince of Wales's, Strauss's)
    ' (only apostrophe) goes with:
    - unusual or classical names (e.g. Archimedes', Pepys'),
    - fixed expressions of the type for ... sake (for goodness' sake)
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    plural nouns ending in -s (e.g. the heroes' courage, the Joneses' house)
    - Mrs. Onassis' jewels, Moses' times (because the last syllable has not more than four letters and not only begins but also ends in 's') ;)
    Where did you get the rule stated in the sentence in bold?

    Thanks.

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    Re: apostrophe 's or s'

    You can decide what you like in that case.

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    #5

    Re: apostrophe 's or s'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tan Elaine View Post
    Angus's parents

    Angus' room parents

    Which is the correct version?

    Many thanks.
    Both are correct. What are 'room parents'?
    Last edited by bhaisahab; 29-Jun-2009 at 15:15. Reason: punctuation correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Both are correct. What are 'room parents'.
    I myself don't know how the word 'room' made its way into the sentence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tan Elaine View Post
    Where did you get the rule stated in the sentence in bold?

    Thanks.

    The rule comes from p. 24 of:
    Manczak-Wohlfeld, E., Nizegorodcew, A., & Willim, E. (2007). A practical grammar of English. Warszawa: PWN.


    Don't be misled by 'practical' in the title ;)
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    Re: apostrophe 's or s'

    Quote Originally Posted by nyota View Post
    The rule comes from p. 24 of:
    Manczak-Wohlfeld, E., Nizegorodcew, A., & Willim, E. (2007). A practical grammar of English. Warszawa: PWN.


    Don't be misled by 'practical' in the title ;)
    Thanks. Is the book written by a native speaker? In all my life, I have never come across such a rule.

    I wonder whether any native speaker has heard this unusual rule.

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    None of the authors are native speakers of English. I don't think native speakers really need these sort of rules. In fact, I believe most people don't. They may come in handy, though, when you're an inquiring mind and a rule-former wondering why Strauss is said to take 's while Mrs. Onassis not necessarily (both words being singular). I agree the rule's rather awkward but I would think it bases on some research done beforehand (observed regularities). Judging by konungursvia's and bhaisahab's comments varations in the field are well possible.

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    Re: apostrophe 's or s'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tan Elaine View Post
    Where did you get the rule stated in the sentence in bold?

    Thanks.
    Whoever came up with such a rule was right about it. Here's the link to a similar thread:
    https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/a...-ending-s.html

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