a hand v. his hand

Status
Not open for further replies.

hhtt21

Key Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2016
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Turkish
Home Country
Turkey
Current Location
Turkey
"Having consulted Annabel with lowered eyes, Issa plunged a skeletal hand inside his overcoat, then his shirtfront, and drew out a grimy purse of chamois leather. And from it two faded press cuttings, which he passed across the table."?

It is clear that it was his own hand, so why does the author not used "plunged his skeletal hand" instead of "a skeletal hand"? Is this a novelic way of saying such a thing?

https://books.google.com.tr/books?i...ngs, which he passed across the table&f=false

Thank you.
 

Rover_KE

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jun 20, 2010
Member Type
Retired English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
England
Current Location
England
He put only one hand inside his coat - not both.
 

hhtt21

Key Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2016
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Turkish
Home Country
Turkey
Current Location
Turkey
He put only one hand inside his coat - not both.
He has already two hands, and his hand instead his hands would be one hand.

Thank you.
 

GoesStation

No Longer With Us
Joined
Dec 22, 2015
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
He has already two hands, and his hand instead his hands would be one hand.

"Plunged a skeletal hand" is a more elegant style and avoids repeating "his".
 

hhtt21

Key Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2016
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Turkish
Home Country
Turkey
Current Location
Turkey
'His (skeletal) hand' could suggest that he had only one (skeletal) hand.
I think that this is very strange because almost all people with two hands only use their one hand, and this makes me think that in speaking everybody say "his hand" instead "a hand".

Thank you.
 

GoesStation

No Longer With Us
Joined
Dec 22, 2015
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
...this makes me think that in speaking everybody says "his hand" instead "a hand".

That's correct. The passage is literary, and it's narration, not dialog.
 

hhtt21

Key Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2016
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Turkish
Home Country
Turkey
Current Location
Turkey
"Having consulted Annabel with lowered eyes, Issa immersed a skeletal hand inside his overcoat, then his shirtfront, and drew out a grimy purse of chamois leather. And from it two faded press cuttings, which he passed across the table."

I changed plunge into immerse, so would the new sentence be identical in meaning with the original?

Thank you.
 

hhtt21

Key Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2016
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Turkish
Home Country
Turkey
Current Location
Turkey
Would saying as 2. "Issa immersed a skeletal hand inside his overcoat, then his shirtfront, and drew out a grimy purse of chamois leather" be just as nice as the original?

Thank you.
 

jutfrank

VIP Member
Joined
Mar 5, 2014
Member Type
English Teacher
Native Language
English
Home Country
England
Current Location
England
No, immersed is not a good choice.
 

GoesStation

No Longer With Us
Joined
Dec 22, 2015
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
"Immersed" doesn't convey the sense of rapidity that "plunged" does.
 

hhtt21

Key Member
Joined
Jun 12, 2016
Member Type
Student or Learner
Native Language
Turkish
Home Country
Turkey
Current Location
Turkey
"Immersed" doesn't convey the sense of rapidity that "plunged" does.


Then if it was put instead plunged, would have the use of immersed been a good choice and conveyed the same idea?

Thank you.
 

GoesStation

No Longer With Us
Joined
Dec 22, 2015
Member Type
Interested in Language
Native Language
American English
Home Country
United States
Current Location
United States
Then if it was put instead plunged, would have the use of immersed been a good choice and conveyed the same idea?

No. "Immersed" means "submerged", an idea that "put" does not convey.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top