A Typical Application for the communist Party membership

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The following is my translation of a very typical application for joining the Communist Party in China. Tens of millions of Chinese have written something like that(Of course, whether that is what they really think is another matter). Any comment would be welcomed.

Honored Party leaders:

My name is Idiot, 25-year-old. I am willing to join the Chinese. Communist Party and devote my entire life to building the communist society. The Chinese Communist Party is the vanguard both of the Chinese working class and of the Chinese people. It is also a strong core of leadership of Chinese socialist cause. The party's ultimate aim is to realise the lofties ideal of the human races: communism.

The CCP is a great, glorious party which is able to conquer its own flaws and march forward. During its eighty-year glorious course, the CCP has guided the Chinese people to succeed in the new-democratic revolution and build a new country based on people's democratic dictatorship after our long-term struggle against imperialism, feudalism and bureaucratic capitalism. Under its leadership, we have made socialistic reconstruction in our country, completed the transition from new-democracy to socialism, established socialist system, developed socialistic economy, politics and culture. Since the Third Plenary Session of its Eleventh Central Committee, the CCP has combined the basic tenets of Marxism with our practical revolutionary conditions and created the socialist theory with Chinese characteristics, which points out the right direction of our further socialistic development.

At the turning point of the two centuries, from a great historic and strategic standpoint, accurately comprehening the development of the domestic and international situation, using the fundamental tenets of dialectic materialism, scientifically suming up the 80-year experience, Comrade Jiang ZeMin has pointed out that our Party has always been representing the development trend of China's advanced productive forces, the orientation of China's advanced ulture and the fundamental interests of the overwhelming majority of the Chinese people. President Jiang ZeMin has put forth this important thought of 'three represents' from his profound understanding of historic materialism. The important thought of 'three represents', which clearly indicates the Party's nature and purposes, is Jiang ZeMin's great constructive contribution to the development of the Marxism theory in this period of history, enriching the Marxism-Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought and Deng Xiaoping Theory.

I have received the education offered by the Party since I was a little child. When I was in the primary school, middle school, college, even when I have begun to work myself, it's always been the Party who brought me up and educated me. Fool, Dunderhead, Imbecile, Nincompoop, Moron(people's name) are always great models to me. They worked diligently for the Party without any complaint. I have leant a lot of theoretical knowledge of the Party in the newspapers and TV. Now, seeing the reform and opening up have yielded substantial results, I now feel from the bottom of my heart that the CPP is worth the title of 'the greatest Marxist party'. The CCP is definitely the hope of China.

I am asking to join the Party. It is my honor to be part of it. If I do, I will contribute all I have to the communism. If not, I won't give up. I would be working on my flaws and weak points so as to become one member of it. Please accept my request.
 

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It will be my honor to offer some corrections. :wink:

Suggested revisions will be in blue.

Cooler said:
The following is my translation of a very typical application for joining the Communist Party in China. Tens of millions of Chinese have written something like that(Of course, whether that is what they really think is another matter). Any comment would be welcomed.

The typical phrase is any comments would be (or: will be) welcome(d). I am not sure why it is comments. Maybe we usually expect more than one. :wink:

Cooler said:
Honored Party leaders:

My name is Idiot, 25-year-old. I am willing to join the Chinese. Communist Party and devote my entire life to building the communist society. The Chinese Communist Party is the vanguard both of the Chinese working class and of the Chinese people. It is also a strong core of leadership of Chinese socialist cause. The party's ultimate aim is to realise the lofties ideal of the human races: communism.

  • My name is Idiot. I am 25 years old. I am willing to join the Chinese. Communist Party and devote my entire life to building a communist society.The Chinese Communist Party is the vanguard both of the Chinese working class and of the Chinese people. The party's ultimate aim is to realise the lofty ideals of the human race: communism.

Cooler said:
The CCP is a great, glorious party which is able to conquer its own flaws and march forward. During its eighty-year glorious course, the CCP has guided the Chinese people to succeed in the new-democratic revolution and build a new country based on people's democratic dictatorship after our long-term struggle against imperialism, feudalism and bureaucratic capitalism. Under its leadership, we have made socialistic reconstruction in our country, completed the transition from new-democracy to socialism, established socialist system, developed socialistic economy, politics and culture. Since the Third Plenary Session of its Eleventh Central Committee, the CCP has combined the basic tenets of Marxism with our practical revolutionary conditions and created the socialist theory with Chinese characteristics, which points out the right direction of our further socialistic development.

Just a couple of things. Say a people's democratic dictatorship. (Isn't that contradictory? ;-) ) Say a socialistic reconstruction. Say a socialist system. Say a socialistic economy, politics and culture. Rather than created the socialist theory with Chinese characteristics
say something like put a socialist theory with Chinese characteristics into practice.

It's kind of long, so I will come back and finish the rest later.

:)
 

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Here the form is more concerned with details of your bank account. ;-)
 

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Our poster has quite a sense of humor, doesn't he?

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More. :)

Cooler said:
At the turning point of the two centuries, from a great historic and strategic standpoint, accurately comprehening the development of the domestic and international situation, using the fundamental tenets of dialectic materialism, scientifically suming up the 80-year experience, Comrade Jiang ZeMin has pointed out that our Party has always been representing the development trend of China's advanced productive forces, the orientation of China's advanced ulture and the fundamental interests of the overwhelming majority of the Chinese people. President Jiang ZeMin has put forth this important thought of 'three represents' from his profound understanding of historic materialism. The important thought of 'three represents', which clearly indicates the Party's nature and purposes, is Jiang ZeMin's great constructive contribution to the development of the Marxism theory in this period of history, enriching the Marxism-Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought and Deng Xiaoping Theory.

I have only a couple of suggestions here. The adjectival form of development is developmental. Also, promoting or encouraging would probably be better than represnting in that sentence. Say the development of Marxist theory. (Marxism is only a noun.) Say enriching Marxism-Leninism, Mao Zedong Thought and Deng Xiaoping Theory. Other than that, the only mistakes in that paragraph were a couple of spelling errors.

Cooler said:
I have received the education offered by the Party since I was a little child. When I was in the primary school, middle school, college, even when I have begun to work myself, it's always been the Party who brought me up and educated me. Fool, Dunderhead, Imbecile, Nincompoop, Moron(people's name) are always great models to me. They worked diligently for the Party without any complaint. I have leant a lot of theoretical knowledge of the Party in the newspapers and TV. Now, seeing the reform and opening up have yielded substantial results, I now feel from the bottom of my heart that the CPP is worth the title of 'the greatest Marxist party'. The CCP is definitely the hope of China.

In the first sentence, you might want to replace received with benefited from. That makes it a more positive statement, and the idea is the "suck up" to them, after all. :wink:

Say I was in primary school. (No definite article there unless you are referring to a particular school, for example: the primary school in St. Louis (that I went to).

Say: "even after I have started working myself, it's always been the Party that...."

Say: "Fool, Dunderhead, Imbecile, Nincompoop, Moron(people's name) have always been great role models for me."

Say: "They have worked diligently for the Party without complaint." (I am assuming that they are still working for the party. Otherwise, past tense is appropriate.)

Say: "I have learned much Communist Party theory from newspapers and TV."

For the last part:
  • Now, seeing that reform and the opening up of China to greater trade opportunites have yielded substantial results, I now feel from the bottom of my heart that the CPP is worth the title of 'the greatest Marxist party'. The CCP is definitely the hope of China.

I took some liberties with the last part as far as interpretation is concerned. Please tell me how accurate it is.

:)

Cooler said:
I am asking to join the Party. It is my honor to be part of it. If I do, I will contribute all I have to the communism. If not, I won't give up. I would be working on my flaws and weak points so as to become one member of it. Please accept my request.

  • I am asking to join the Party. I would be honored to be a part of it. If I am accepted as a member of the CCP, I will contribute all I have to communism. If I am not accepted, I won't give up. I will continue working on my flaws and weak points so as to become a member of the CCP one day. Please accept my request.

What do you think?

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tdol said:
Here the form is more concerned with details of your bank account. ;-)

tdol, I assume you were slamming the modern business English here. I have read your 'mission statements', and I understand your feelings toward this language garbage. It is exactly what I feel about the 'language pollution' in Chinese language caused by the CCP. :(
 

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Thanks, RonBee. I see I have a big problem with both definite article and indefinite article through your corrections, which I think are great examples for me to work on. And I still have some questions about the 'represent' used in the following sentence:

The CCP has always been representing the development trend of China's advanced productive forces, the orientation of China's advanced culture and the fundamental interests of the overwhelming majority of the Chinese people.

You suggested replacing 'represent' with 'promote' or 'encourage'. They may work better than the former one in English, but I feel that it is not I want to say. The so-call 'three represents' theory indicates that, the CCP is(or it provides) a symbol of the development trend of China's advanced productive forces, the orientation of China's advanced culture and the interests of the Chinese people(this is why the theory is so funny to me). I don't know the proper word for it. Maybe 'symbolize' or 'stand for'?

About the last part, I am glad that you get my point although I didn't express myself clearly. Thanks again, RonBee. If you want to join the CCP one day, this post may be a little helpful for you. :D (I don't know how this world would be like if an American people want to join the CCP).
 

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Frankly, that passage is a little confusing to me.

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  • The CCP has always been representing the development trend of China's advanced productive forces, the orientation of China's advanced culture and the fundamental interests of the overwhelming majority of the Chinese people.
The advanced productive forces suggests an army to me, but it really means the workers, right? I am not sure what the orientation of China's advanced culture is supposed to mean. Could you rephrase that in simpler language for me?

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RonBee said:
The advanced productive forces suggests an army to me, but it really means the workers, right? I am not sure what the orientation of China's advanced culture is supposed to mean. Could you rephrase that in simpler language for me?

:)
I understand your confusion about it, RonBee.
'advanced productive forces': advanced productive technologies
'the orientation of China's advanced culture': the developmental direction in which China's advanced culture is going to move'
 
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Very funny, buddy, you tried to interpret "Three Representative", which is our "Great" but actually disgusting President Jiang's deceiving theory, to foreign people?

Xixi, I really doubt they could understand what a society we're living is.

Frankly, I do really think the essay for applying for taking part in CCP is too vomiting. Aha, as well as the content of what they're talking at their meetings.
 

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Cooler said:
RonBee said:
The advanced productive forces suggests an army to me, but it really means the workers, right? I am not sure what the orientation of China's advanced culture is supposed to mean. Could you rephrase that in simpler language for me?

:)
I understand your confusion about it, RonBee.
'advanced productive forces': advanced productive technologies
'the orientation of China's advanced culture': the developmental direction in which China's advanced culture is going to move'

We have a word for that kind of language, several, actually--none of them complimentary. Here's one: gobbledygook. I guess it's the kind of thing that happens when bureaucrats get ahold of the language--no matter where you are.

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May I make a few suggestions? (It's my job. :wink: )

eric2004 said:
Very funny, buddy, you tried to interpret "Three Representative", which is our "Great" but actually disgusting President Jiang's deceiving theory, to foreign people?
Instead of deceiving, say deceptive.

eric2004 said:
Xixi, I really doubt they could understand what a society we're living is.
Try:
  • I really doubt they can understand what kind of a society we're living in.

eric2004 said:
Frankly, I do really think the essay for applying for taking part in CCP is too vomiting. Aha, as well as the content of what they're talking at their meetings.
Rather than vomiting, say nauseating. (You've got the right idea.)

I guess you don't care for kissing the boots of Communist Party bosses, eh?

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