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Oh dear, Ouisch - let me apologise on behalf of all us Brits who are embarrassed by this kind of behaviour!
Hear hear! ;-) You've had a rotten experience, Ouisch. Did this event perhaps take place in London? I was born there, and loved it once, but since I moved away - nearly half a lifetime ago - Londoners (by no means all, but quite a few) have struck me as unusually brusque.

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May I be so bold as to suggest also that a Londoner is not a 'typical Englishman' in the eyes of many in the UK; in fact, they are only a mere percentage of the population and as regional as a Yorkshireman or Cornishman.

Out of all the UK 'tribes', a Londoner may be regarded as the one sole who on the whole finds it difficult to find his or her identity.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but having lived there for five years it was a note-worthy trait.
 

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Many thanks to everyone who's responded so far: the descriptions make for interesting reading.
I think I have to agree with Shakespeare's brother.
Trouble is, when most people think of an Englishman they think of a Londoner. I think even a Londoner would agree that a Londoner is an atypical Englishman, probably because London is such a cosmopolitan city.
Let's hope we can hear from some who've met or otherwise come across more typical Englishmen.
 

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Tolerant? I don't think so. But perhaps I'm thinking in terms of older English gentlemen. During my many trips to Blighty I've found that the typical older English gentleman has an inbred, automatic bias against Americans (or "Colonists," as a few called me). I could give you dozens of examples, but will start with just one:

One of my first trips to London, map in hand, trying to figure out the confusing bus routes (I'm from Detroit, where the buses are few and everyone has a car.) When a bus stopped at my corner, I stepped aboard to ask the driver if this was the bus that went to X, and seconds later an older man sitting nearby started sputtering about how I was holding up the coach and my silly questions were nonsense, etc, etc. I looked him in the eye and said, "I hope, sir, that some day if a loved one of yours is lost in the United States that someone will show more kindness than you have." The bus driver did give me helpful information as to which number bus I needed to catch, all the while the other man was mumbling about "bloody Colonists."
Like Anglika I must apologise for my compatriot - such behaviour I assure you is exceptional rather than typical. If you visit us again, try anywhere other than London - I'm sure you won't find many "Colonel Blimps" in, say Manchester or York.
 

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May I be so bold as to suggest also that a Londoner is not a 'typical Englishman' in the eyes of many in the UK; in fact, they are only a mere percentage of the population and as regional as a Yorkshireman or Cornishman.

Out of all the UK 'tribes', a Londoner may be regarded as the one sole who on the whole finds it difficult to find his or her identity.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but having lived there for five years it was a note-worthy trait.
:up:
When I left London for the first time (aged 20) I met and envied many people from all over the UK who all had an acute sense of belonging to an area - in a way that most Londoners (all except those from a very few areas) don't.

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Please allow me to feel very surprised that you should think it necessary to apologize for what one old man said to a young woman in London.

In my opinion she should have laughed it off. Why spread such an unpleasant light onto Londoners? There are weirdos everywhere and I think it was just by chance that Quisch came across the weirdest of all in London.

In any case, I personally find this sentence extremely biased myself.

I've found that the typical older English gentleman has an inbred, automatic bias against Americans
 

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In regards to the English person's stoicism and queuing, re: the Northern Rock disaster and the long queues in the street. Any other country there would be a riot!
 

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In regards to the English person's stoicism and queuing, re: the Northern Rock disaster and the long queues in the street. Any other country there would be a riot!
Thanks for that, Batfink. I have to agree with you there. It quite surprised me when I went to Austria to find that getting on a bus was a free-for-all: especially as in all other respects it seemed a very civilised society. I think queueing is ingrained in Englishmen; in fact queue-jumping is one thing which is pretty much certain to annoy even the most placid amongst us.
 

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Although I've never lived in London (apart from one four-week stint), I used to be in and through it a fair bit along with my (northern) Irish accent during the worst part of the Troubles, when bombs were occasionally going off in England. On no significant occasion that I remember, when I've had to ask my way on the street or otherwise come into contact with Londoners then or since, can I remember people being hostile: noncommital occasionally, but mostly helpful. (In fact, it wasn't until I was in Lisbon with International House that I got a bit of the 'Little Englander' treatment from British Council types.) My kind of Englishman:

has a good sense of humour (shades of Monty Python),
knows his beer (you don't need your CAMRA atlas), and
is a considerate host.

Why not a post on the typical Irish-, Scots-, or Welshman? And what happened to the women?
 

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Yes, indeed, we seem to be thinking only of men here.

I remember women being:

strong minded

always say "love" (pronounced lef)

smoking

I remember the bus conductors, I don't know if they still exist, they always called everybody "love", very funny (nice funny) to my German ears, in Germany this would never be possible.
 

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girls

have grown to be fashion-conscious in a way that was simply not there(at least to my eyes) some twenty years ago
Brits
generally have a way with words that grows on you
managed to accidentally "acquire" some of the most famous artefacts in the world throughout history
 
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Buggles, you have hit on a good idea.

Sorry to interrupt.. but what is the buggles mean....

I couldn't find in the dictionary. There is a word bugle.It's is a musical instrument - trumpet.

Is it the same to say '' O..God'' or If a person angry so starts to talk with this word...
 

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''Buggles, you have hit on a good idea.''

this sentence is not mine... I think appex2000 wrote it...
 

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In someBlackswan-pint o' Bass with a succulent Yorkshire Pudding.
Allright mate ?
A bit parky today !
someone laughing when I say Je vais à la banque [b^nk]
 

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Although I've never lived in London (apart from one four-week stint), I used to be in and through it a fair bit along with my (northern) Irish accent during the worst part of the Troubles, when bombs were occasionally going off in England. On no significant occasion that I remember, when I've had to ask my way on the street or otherwise come into contact with Londoners then or since, can I remember people being hostile: noncommital occasionally, but mostly helpful. (In fact, it wasn't until I was in Lisbon with International House that I got a bit of the 'Little Englander' treatment from British Council types.) My kind of Englishman:

has a good sense of humour (shades of Monty Python),
knows his beer (you don't need your CAMRA atlas), and
is a considerate host.

Why not a post on the typical Irish-, Scots-, or Welshman? And what happened to the women?

I concur. I lived in England for many years and only once have I witnessed hostility on account of my background. And I then noticed he was wearing a right wing badge so...
 

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Yes, indeed, we seem to be thinking only of men here.

I remember women being:

strong minded

always say "love" (pronounced lef)

smoking

I remember the bus conductors, I don't know if they still exist, they always called everybody "love", very funny (nice funny) to my German ears, in Germany this would never be possible.
Sorry to report that as far as I know they've all gone -all the buses I come across just have drivers who take the fares too - they still call you "love" though (unless you're a man!) and here "oop North" it's always pronounced luv.
Sorry for the (unintended) male bias - maybe I should have asked for words to describe a typical English person.
Let's hope I've not put anyone off responding.
 

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Sorry to report that as far as I know they've all gone -all the buses I come across just have drivers who take the fares too - they still call you "love" though (unless you're a man!) and here "oop North" it's always pronounced luv.
Yes, I think that was it: luv! And such a shame, the conductors, often ladies, were like a national institution.


Sorry for the (unintended) male bias - maybe I should have asked for words to describe a typical English person.
Let's hope I've not put anyone off responding.

I don't think so, buggles, that would be really weird.

So, let me see, three more:

correctness

drinking warm beer :shock:

eating fish and chips

(Imagine, one of my 11 year old students, he is really clever, was doing a "word association" with me the other day. So we said: blue, sea, diving, fish...and then he suddenly said: CHIPS!! I almost didn't get the association!)
 

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After a pint o' Bass and an already cold Yorkshire pudding,
A resounding allegedly
And an unexpected 'excuse my French !'
That's my typical English person with the aforementioned oh a bit parky today! which reaches your ears on a misty and yet not too broad 'brummie 'morning.
 

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Sorry to report that as far as I know they've all gone -all the buses I come across just have drivers who take the fares too ...

I think there are probably some parts of Britain where they still exist. Years after the old Routemaster (http://www.britishtaxdiscs.co.uk/gallery/1960 AEC Routemaster Bus.jpg) was scrapped in London, someone resurrected them in Reading, and made a lot of advertising capital out of the conductor service). They've all gone here now, but I wouldn't be surprised if they still exist somewhere not too central - The Isle of Man, perhaps?

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Buggles, you have hit on a good idea.

Sorry to interrupt.. but what is the buggles mean....

I couldn't find in the dictionary. There is a word bugle.It's is a musical instrument - trumpet.

Is it the same to say '' O..God'' or If a person angry so starts to talk with this word...
There's no significace or meaning to "Buggles" - it's just my nom-de-plume.
Thanks for the contribution and whether you or Appex 2000 thought I'd hit on a good idea, I can't really claim the credit - I "stole" the idea from Amigos4.
 
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