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billy

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hi,
I got a problem with grammar, I need your help , see blow.
1.
a. I found there is a mistake
b. I found there was a mistake
what's the difference between a and b ?

2.
how did you know I was here ? ( why instead of "how did you know I am here ? " because the speaker is here at the monment, it's true! should be " I am here" instead of " I was here")

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what does it mean by " don't let nobody touch it , that is my favorite radio"? ( should be " don't let anybody touch it " ) :(
 

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1.
a. I found there is a mistake
b. I found there was a mistake
what's the difference between a and b ?

I suppose that if somebody said there was a mistake that would mean it isn't there anymore. Practically speaking, there might not be any difference. Finally, you could simply say, "I found a mistake." :)

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how did you know I was here ? ( why instead of "how did you know I am here ? " because the speaker is here at the monment, it's true! should be " I am here" instead of " I was here")

"How did you know I am here" simply isn't used. In any event, the speaker would be talking about an event that occurred in the past, even if only a relatively brief time in the past.

3.
what does it mean by " don't let nobody touch it , that is my favorite radio"? ( should be " don't let anybody touch it " )

Stricly speaking, according to the rules of prescriptivist grammar, you are right. :)

:hi:

English Idioms
https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1697

Brief Verse (Couplets)
https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1579

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thank you

thank you for your explanation

he told me there is a mistake ( means the mistake is still there)
he told me there was a mistake ( means the mistake is not there any more )

Do I understand them right?

if I'm right , I still got confused.

"how did you know I was here? " doesn't make a sense, because at the monment I ask, I am here
 

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Re: thank you

he told me there is a mistake ( means the mistake is still there)

Certainly. :D

he told me there was a mistake ( means the mistake is not there any more )

Possibly. :)

Do I understand them right?

I think so. :)

(Context, of course, is everything.)

if I'm right , I still got confused.

Why would you still be confused? :?

"how did you know I was here? " doesn't make a sense, because at the monment I ask, I am here

But when you asked "How did you know...?" you were talking about something that had happened in the past. Presumably, the person knows where you are at the time you are speaking, but you are talking about something that happened prior to that.

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what does you mean by "possibly" in your reply? could you please explain it to me ? I don't undersand you




sometimes I can't express myself properly , so people don't undersand me . that was embarrassing. that 's why I want to know the reasons in detail
 

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1a. I found (that) there is a mistake. (OK)
1b. I found (that) there was a mistake (made by someone). (OK)

b. = Passive construction. The passive focuses on the object, the mistake, and takes the focus off the subject, the person who made the mistake.

2. How did you know (that) I was here ? (OK)
Meaning, How did you know that I would be here now?

3. Don't let nobody touch it (the dial). That is my favorite radio (show)."
Better, Don't let anyone touch it.

Single negative
do not (negative) + any one (positive) grammatical

Double-negative
do not (negative) + nobody (negative) ungrammatical

:D
 
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i found out Caseopia is a teacher... and Ronbee is an expert...
but both have 6 stars... does it makes any different? just ask actually... hehe... :)
 

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billy said:
what does you mean by "possibly" in your reply? could you please explain it to me ? I don't undersand you

A person could say "There was a mistake on your test" without meaning that the mistake isn't there anymore. It might still be there. (Nobody has changed it.) However, he is still using was. Why? Because. :wink:

billy said:
sometimes I can't express myself properly , so people don't undersand me . that was embarrassing. that 's why I want to know the reasons in detail

Don't be embarrassed. If you knew everything already you wouldn't have any reason to ask questions. If nobody asked questions we wouldn't have a forum. :wink:

There is something missing in those sentences of yours. Can you tell me what it is? :wink:

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joetmh said:
i found out Caseopia is a teacher... and Ronbee is an expert...
but both have 6 stars... does it makes any different? just ask actually... hehe... :)

It's Red who makes those decisions. (Red5 is the wizard of the forum.) Anyhow, Caseopia is a teacher in "real life". If you want to know why I am an "expert" you will have to ask Red.

:wink:

(Say: "Does it make any difference?")

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billy

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something missing?

that's the reason why I want to know the reasons in detail :roll:



by the way , thank you very much for your help .
 

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Casiopea said:
1a. I found (that) there is a mistake. (OK)
1b. I found (that) there was a mistake (made by someone). (OK)

b. = Passive construction. The passive focuses on the object, the mistake, and takes the focus off the subject, the person who made the mistake.

2. How did you know (that) I was here ? (OK)
Meaning, How did you know that I would be here now?

3. Don't let nobody touch it (the dial). That is my favorite radio (show)."
Better, Don't let anyone touch it.

Single negative
do not (negative) + any one (positive) grammatical


casiopea:

why not using " how did you know I will be here?"
by the way, I saw a TV show last night , in the show, a girl said: " Mom said we're going to need some apple " is this right ? could you please explain it to me ?

Double-negative
do not (negative) + nobody (negative) ungrammatical

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joetmh said:
i found out Caseopia is a teacher... and Ronbee is an expert...
but both have 6 stars... does it makes any different? just ask actually... hehe... :)

We are a team. :D Questions come in all shapes and sizes, as do their Answers. That's why we have different kinds of helpers on this board. We want to meet everyone's needs as best we can, so we offer more than one way of looking at and approaching grammar. :D

No one star in the Universe outshines another. It's the guided light of the stars around it that make it appear so. It's a natural phenomenon. :D
 

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  • (Say: "Does it make any difference?")

You're the expert in my books. :up:
 

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Why not use "How did you know I will be here?"

'will be here' refers to the Future. I am here now, in the Present.

By the way, I saw a TV show last night and in the show, a girl said, "Mom said we're going to need some apples." Is this right? Could you please explain it to me?

It's right. But you should add punctuation if it's direct speech:

Mom: "We are going to need some apples."
Sue: "Ok. I will buy some."
Tom: "What did Mom say?"
Sue: "Mom said, 'We are going to need some apples'."

If it's indirect speech, don't use punctuation:

Mom: "The family is going to need apples."
Sue: "Ok. I will buy some."
Tom: "What did Mom say?"
Sue: "Mom said we are going to need some apples.

we are going to need some apples is not exactly what Mom said, so don't use quotation marks ("..").

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Casiopea said:
joetmh said:
i found out Caseopia is a teacher... and Ronbee is an expert...
but both have 6 stars... does it makes any different? just ask actually... hehe... :)

We are a team. :D Questions come in all shapes and sizes, as do their Answers. That's why we have different kinds of helpers on this board. We want to meet everyone's needs as best we can, so we offer more than one way of looking at and approaching grammar. :D

No one star in the Universe outshines another. It's the guided light of the stars around it that make it appear so. It's a natural phenomenon. :D

Add:

  • I keep learning things from Casiopea all the time.

    :D

:D
 

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The stars grow automatically as people post. ;-)
 

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tdol said:
The stars grow automatically as people post. ;-)

So, is seven the limit? (I want another one.)

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