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He did the job ....


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Tdol

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Which is correct?
 

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I vote for none of the above. I would say either he did the job well or he did a good job.

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In BE, many would use the first option. I heard it today. ;-)
 

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He did a fine job is AE, but I wouldn't expect to hear He did the job fine.

  • "We and the Americans have much in common, but there is always the language barrier."
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tdol said:
In BE, many would use the first option. I heard it today. ;-)

I would say "He did the job well", - I try to avoid the americanism "GOOD JOB", unless I'm trying to be witty - or perhaps "He did a fine job", but not "He did the job fine". Sounds wrong to me, but people do say that sort of thing in the UK.

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I wouldn't go for it myself, but I heard it and it stuck in my mind. ;-)
 

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Based on English grammar, it is supposed to be ' He did the job well ' :). But it seems that ' He did the job fine ' sounds smoother in speech.

Sometimes I wonder if following grammar or following the trend is the priority for non-English speakers ?

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whl626 said:
Sometimes I wonder if following grammar or following the trend is the priority for non-English speakers ?

I think grammar is important when learning a new language, but native speakers (of any language) don't always follow the rules - or even know the rules. If you want to fit in, you'll need to follow what others do. But there's a big difference in language depending on whether you're talking to people on the street or workers in offices.

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There is also a grey area where adjectives and adverbs merge- the distinction is not always 100% clear. ;-)
 

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That's my point about English since language is a tool for communication and rules are set according to their application in day to day human interaction.

But to my surprise, a native speaker from Canada doesn't see eye to eye with me on this point. She said this thinking is stupid and hates to see participant of such mentality in their room. In fact, I still think it is an irrational thinking of a non-English speaker
 

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whl626 said:
That's my point about English since language is a tool for communication and rules are set according to their application in day to day human interaction.

That's an excellent comment.

whl626 said:
But to my surprise, a native speaker from Canada doesn't see eye to eye with me on this point. She said this thinking is stupid and hates to see participant of such mentality in their room. In fact, I still think it is an irrational thinking of a non-English speaker

It seems to me that in this case it's the English speaker that is being irrational. (Perhaps that is what you intended.)

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RonBee said:
whl626 said:
That's my point about English since language is a tool for communication and rules are set according to their application in day to day human interaction.

That's an excellent comment.

whl626 said:
But to my surprise, a native speaker from Canada doesn't see eye to eye with me on this point. She said this thinking is stupid and hates to see participant of such mentality in their room. In fact, I still think it is an irrational thinking of a non-English speaker

It seems to me that in this case it's the English speaker that is being irrational. (Perhaps that is what you intended.)

: :?

What a serious typo :p I meant to say ' rational ' :p
 

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I don't like any of the options given in the poll, and I'm a BE speaker. :cry:
 

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valtango said:
tdol said:
Which is correct?
I also think "he did the job well" or "he did a fine job" but the others are incorrect

Try saying it with a Cockney accent- that's what I heard and, while I wouldn't use it, it sounds fine there. ;-)))))
 

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Wouldn't that make it "He done the job fine."? ;-)
 

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Even 'better'. ;-)
 

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What are you guys talking?...BE, AE?what are they?
 

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In Viet Nam.....many people often mistake when sayinng : " big job "......Why don't use its ? " fine job" and " good job" which diflicult how ?
 
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