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Ayed

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Hi, my teachers and readers.
I have come here to feed you with some clumsy topics, kindly be patient with, :)
Here you can jump into my writing pool
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Arabic And English
English language is reputed to be the pervasive language in the world. Learning English still has some obstacles attributable to mother tonge language , syllabus and environment.
It is accepted that any student often endeavors to develop his skill, ability and talent in the taught language. The main syllabuses should carefully be chosen in line with the various levels that student may go through. He may study high courses than his real level and vice versa. Confining to curriculums at school is not enough for student to enhance his skills. Not only should he look for another articles that helpful to him but also not to keep studying school syllabuses only. He has effectively to listen to English broadcasts on radio, watch TV, and videotapes.
Another important point for the student is to live in an English environment as much as he can. If he is able to afford expenses, he had better to travel abroad to have some basic courses, expose to the language, and bespeak to the native speakers. He will have his abilities developed, his talent sharpened and his proficiency boosted.

We , Arabi-native speaker , have obstacles in pronunciation. Also, in grammar, some differences between the two languages make it more sophisticated. Moreover, using prepositions is a real thesaurus; because their apparent meaning may lead us to the wrong concept. These are difficulties regarding the languages themselves.
There are other difficulties regarding the learner himself. First of all, he might have some troubles with his LAD---language acquiring device . Secondly, if he is patient, he will not get along with that. As is known, students in Saudi Arabia are being taught in Grammar- Translation Method, which is not that sufficient. So, they do not practice enough spoken utterance. Consequently, they cannot develop English easily.
Nowadays, most of these difficulties are somewhat overcome by using facilities of technology. What we are to do is exploit that successfully.
In short, exposing to English is more important than studying it through books, articles and syllabus.

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English language is reputed to be the pervasive language in the world.

  • The English language is reputed to be the pervasive language in the world.

I wouldn't call English a pervasive language. A perverse language, maybe. :wink:

Perhaps you mean to say that English is the dominant language of the world. However, I don't think that is quite right. Mandarin Chinese and Spanish have more speakers than English does. English is certainly a worldwide language, spoken from Singapore to Kenya to the UK to the USA. It certainly is an important language. Perhaps you could say that English is one of the world's most dominant languages, spoken all around the globe. (It's an official language in seven African countries.)

Later.

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Thank you , Mr.RonBee .
I ask you a question:
How good is my English?
Is it understandable Or clumsy :) ?
Thank you , St.Louisian
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Ayed said:
Thank you , Mr.RonBee .
I ask you a question:
How good is my English?
Is it understandable Or clumsy :) ?
Thank you , St.Louisian
Ayed

I think your English is quite understandable, but it is better (easier to understand) in conversations than in essays, which require some interpretation. Perhaps you could make your essays a little more conversational? :)

(I'm sorry I haven't had more time to read and critique your essays, but Eric has had a zillion questions.)

:)
 

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I'll start:
English language is reputed to be the pervasive language in the world.

First of all, I feel there's a 'most' missing before 'pervasive'. I am also not too sure whether this is the right word. It has a negative connotation to me. ;-)
 

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Feel free to help with the rest.

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English language is reputed to be the pervasive language in the world.

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    The English language is reputed to be the most dominant language in the world.

It is possible, I think, for a language to be the most dominant language without being the most widely spoken language. I do think that sentence deserves its own paragraph.

Learning English still has some obstacles attributable to mother tonge language , syllabus and environment.

  • Some abstacles to learning English are the learner's native tongue, syllabus, and environment.

It would be preferable, I think, if you would go into more detail concerning the points made in that sentence.

It is accepted that any student often endeavors to develop his skill, ability and talent in the taught language.

You need to work on that some. Perhaps you want to say something like, "Anybody learning a new language will learn as much as they can, because they will want to make the best use of it possible." :?:

I do like your phrase my writing pool. :wink:

More later.

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Ayed said:
Thank you Mr.RonBee and Tdolfor your corrections

Would you please click on this link?

https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2076

Shokrun(thanks)
Ayed

I read that one, and it is quite interesting. However, I didn't have time to comment on it. I will do so, but it might be a while. I have to eat and sleep and do chores and stuff. :wink:

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I am positng this to remind myself what syllabus means.


The main syllabuses should carefully be chosen in line with the various levels that student may go through.

That looks fine to me.

He may study high courses than his real level and vice versa.

That I don't get. Does it mean that he might study more advanced courses than his level might indicate?

Confining to curriculums at school is not enough for student to enhance his skills.

I think I understand that. Perhaps:

  • It is not enough for the student to stick to schoolwork for him to enhance his skills.

That should be close anyhow, eh?

Not only should he look for another articles that helpful to him but also not to keep studying school syllabuses only.

I'm a little bit puzzled about that one. Maybe Tdol can help. :?

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Thank you .Mr.RonBee I thought you did not see the topic.
Eat but not overdone .Drink but be not over hung :wink:



Not only should he look for another articles that helpful to him but also not to keep studying school syllabuses only.

I'm a little bit puzzled about that one. Maybe Tdol can help. :?

:?:[/quote]

Not only should he keep studying school syllabuses but also should look for another articles helpful to him.
I think I wanted to write it this way.
Are still Mr.RonBee buzzing about this phrase so far?


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Ayed said:
Thank you .Mr.RonBee I thought you did not see the topic.
Eat but not overdone .Drink but be not over hung :wink:



Not only should he look for another articles that helpful to him but also not to keep studying school syllabuses only.

I'm a little bit puzzled about that one. Maybe Tdol can help. :?

:?:

Not only should he keep studying school syllabuses but also should look for another articles helpful to him.
I think I wanted to write it this way.
Are still Mr.RonBee buzzing about this phrase so far?


Thank you

Ayed[/quote]

How about:

  • Not only should he keep studying his subjects, but also he should look for things to study outside school that will help him increase his knowledge of the subject.

What do you think?

:)
 

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Is not a case of studying the things laid out in the syllabuses rather than the syllabus texts themselves. ;-)
 

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tdol said:
Is not a case of studying the things laid out in the syllabuses rather than the syllabus texts themselves. ;-)

Um, could you put that in plain English?

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He has effectively to listen to English broadcasts on radio, watch TV, and videotapes.

I don't think has to fits well there. Perhaps:

  • To improve his English, he listens to English broadcasts on radio and watches TV and videotapes.

Another important point for the student is to live in an English environment as much as he can.

  • A big help to learning English is to live in an English-speaking area.

If he is able to afford expenses, he had better to travel abroad to have some basic courses, expose to the language, and bespeak to the native speakers. He will have his abilities developed, his talent sharpened and his proficiency boosted.

That can be simplified a great deal. Perhaps:

  • He will be able to improve his speaking skills and his listening skills greatly if he moves to an area where a great many English-speakers live.

English words from Arabic:

  • algebra
    coffee
    pajamas

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We , Arabi-native speaker , have obstacles in pronunciation.

  • One obstacle to learning English for Arabic speakers is pronunciation.

Also, in grammar, some differences between the two languages make it more sophisticated.

  • Also, differences in grammar between the two languages cause problems in learning English.

Moreover, using prepositions is a real thesaurus; because their apparent meaning may lead us to the wrong concept.

  • Moreover, learning how to use prepositions can be dificult. That is because their apparent meaning can be misleading.

How am I doing?

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These are difficulties regarding the languages themselves.
There are other difficulties regarding the learner himself. First of all, he might have some troubles with his LAD---language acquiring device .

Those are all okay, but I think it is language acquisition device. I must admit that I am not totally sure what "difficulties regarding the languages themselves" means. Perhaps context would explain that.

Secondly, if he is patient, he will not get along with that.

I don't know what that means. All I am fairly sure of is that the writer sees patience as a detriment.

As is known, students in Saudi Arabia are being taught in Grammar- Translation Method, which is not that sufficient. So, they do not practice enough spoken utterance. Consequently, they cannot develop English easily.

  • As is known, students in Saudi Arabia are being taught by the Grammar- Translation Method, which is an inadequate method. They do not get enough practice speaking English. Consequently, they have difficulty developing their English skills.

Nowadays, most of these difficulties are somewhat overcome by using facilities of technology. What we are to do is exploit that successfully.

  • Nowadays, most of these difficulties are somewhat overcome by using modern technology. What we need to do is exploit those methods to maximum advantage.

In short, exposing to English is more important than studying it through books, articles and syllabus.

  • In short, exposure to English (both spoken and written English) is more important than studying it through books, articles and syllabus.

I think that is right, but I am not certain. Anyhow, you will probably need to make some more changes once you put all the sentences back together.

:)
 

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RonBee, you have the patience of Job. I hope they pay you plenty many.

English is certainly the world's dominant language in that it is the language of the economic imperialists. Much much more power resides with the English-language-speaking bloc.
 

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salam ayed
In my home country Tunisia ,as I study English in college I find it easy to speak fluently because I study 1h:30 oral expression per week and I communicate in English with other teachers as well
i just want to say your English is ok
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salam Ayed
I'm not a teacher but I'll try to help

Arabic And English
English language is known to be the dominating language in the world. Learning English still has some obstacles attributable to mother tongue language , syllabus and environment.
It is accepted that any student often endeavors to develop his skill, ability and talent in the taught language(I think that the previous sentence is not a sentence ;it is a fragment.you must add sth). The main syllabuses should be carefully chosen in line with the various levels that student may go through. He/she may study high courses than his/her real level and vice versa. Confining to curriculums at school is not enough for a student to enhance his skills. Not only should he look for other articles that could be helpful to him/her but also not to keep studying school syllabuses only(the end of this sentence is awkward .You have used not only...but also ;then only at the end .Plz reconstruct it.);-). He/she(don't be sexist:-?) has effectively to listen to English broadcasts on radio, TV, and videotapes.
Another important point for the student is to live in an English environment as much as he/she can. If he/she is able to afford expenses, he/she had better to travel abroad to have some basic courses, expose to the language, and bespeak to the native speakers. He/she will have his/her abilities developed, his/her talent sharpened and his/her proficiency boosted.

We , Arab-native speaker , have obstacles in pronunciation. Also, in grammar, some differences between the two languages make it more sophisticated. Moreover, using prepositions is a real thesaurus; because their apparent meaning may lead us to the wrong concept. These are difficulties regarding the languages themselves.
There are other difficulties regarding the learner himself/herself. First of all, he/she might have some troubles with his/her LAD---language acquiring device . Secondly, if he/she is patient, he :-?will not get along with that. As is known, students in Saudi Arabia are being taught in Grammar- Translation Method, which is not that sufficient. So, they do not practice enough spoken utterance. Consequently, they cannot develop English easily.
Nowadays, most of these difficulties are somewhat overcome by using facilities of technology. What we have to do is exploit that successfully.
In short, exposing to English is more important than studying it through books, articles and syllabus.:up::up::up::up::up::up::up:
NB: If you didn't like the use of (she/he) in your essay you may replace it by the plural (they;students;people..... ) or you may use only she
It is neutral .
They are solutions suggested by my teachers for not being sexist or having an awkward sentence.
I repeat again I'm not a teacher
salamou 3alaykom:hi:
 
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