Are Pearson-Longman guys crazy or what?

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Simosito

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ATTENTION: this thread is going to be IDIOT, FUTILE, USELESS and can drive you crazy. (Maybe it is going to be offensive, too)

Ok, I am not an english expert, I don't whant this wonderful language to be like Latin or Ancient Greek but there are things that must be said!
I know languages change but I can not be quiet!

My English book (I haven't choosen it myself, is a school book) is edited by Pearson-Longman. I don't hate this group (nor I hate/ate their books - ok, stupid joke I know) but they've done something they would not!

Our (my) book should teach basic grammar skills, I know we - I mean me and my class mates - aren't like Shakespeare (20 italians + 2 italo-americans can't be members of the "Dead Poets Society") but can't they teach us to write?

What happened?

Well, I've done KET one year ago and my old English teacher was great, so I know how to use "Will"

(the last thing we studied, and we're 14-15. Our school is quite strange: you start studying english when you are a stupid 8-years-old kid and you are good enought to do KET when you're 12-13. Thus you shouldn't need to start everything again, should you? But you DO start everything again [it's quite funny, teens saying "I am, you are, it ar...is, ..."])

Anyway, we have studied "WILL" and what does the Longman&Pearson-edited book tell us?

Ex. 4: Complete with "will/will not". Try to use only 'll/won't, if possible

I've double checked, then I've read another book:

Forms like 'm,'ll,aren't shouldn't be used into written essays

I know - how many time have I used this verb? - languages (dis)evolve and it's important to learn what 's can mean BUT why they want to teach us to use a poor language?
Maybe the 2012 edition will say:

DO NOT USE is not, use ain't insthead

I'm not saying that WE - us the people, not dead authors nor people that will born and maybe write, 20 years from now, for "The Newyorker" or some british botanic-related stuff - must not use syntax elements used by Shakespeare himself nor say "How art thou Ken? And thy cat?" but shouldn't WE know - Noo, not this verb again, I need a synonim - that they still aren't correct?

Questions

  1. What do you think about?
  2. Have you really read everything I wrote?
  3. How many know have I used?
Bye.

P.s.
This written MONSTER maybe is full of rhetoric, so don't tell me I write in a strange way. (But you can check my grammar, if you want)
 

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Fascinating!
Perhaps you should wait until you have calmed down before you try to express yourself in this strange foreign language. I can tell that you are angry, but I have no idea why.
Did your new book not agree with YOUR old idea? Happens all the time as we learn new things.
Good luck with English
 

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Ok, now I'm not as angry as I was.
Have I wrote something idiot?
Have I killed centuries of grammar?

Anyway, I was angry because that book don't tell you that writing "don't, can't, won't" is still not correct, other books do.
 

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Ok, now I'm not as angry as I was.
Have I wrote:cross: [You want the past perfect here - so use the past participle] something idiotic? [French idiot (adj. is a faux ami.]

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It's probably worth checking in the front-matter (foreword, preface, 'editor's note' - that sort of thing) what the book is trying to teach. Longman Pearson publish books aimed at specific markets, and what your book allows/disallows may apply to a specific area of usage. (It's possible that a teacher may not have read the 'small print' too, which could be very confusing for a student.)

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Did I really write "have I wrote"?
Ok, yes I did.

About "idiotic":
thanks, I was sure I'd write something very stupid but I didn't think about "idiotic". I've quite double-checked everything but the answer (15 March)

Anyway:

There is not an editor's note nor a preface... [<= is that correc?t]
My book is written for 14-16-years-old kids but it should teach how to pass international exams and it say - I'm reading from an about page that don't explain editor's ideas - that it'll help us - the students - with our writing skills.
 
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