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peter123

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Hi there,
Which one is correct and why?

1. Framing refers both to the physical frame of the picture and means how you look at or understand a situation.

2.Framing both refers to the physical frame of the picture and means how you look at or understand a situation.

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Hi there,
Which one is correct and why?

1. Framing refers both to the physical frame of the picture and means how you look at or understand a situation.

2.Framing both refers to the physical frame of the picture and means how you look at or understand a situation.

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Hello,

What is your choice?:-D

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May I try?

I would choose #2.

We have to verbs: refer and mean.
If you say "refers both and means" it sounds odd to me, because mean doesn't have anything to do with refer.
That's why I'd choose "both refers... and means..." :)

I hope I'm right ;-)

Edit
We have two verbs: refer and mean.

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First off, drop "means".

As for the sentences, as far as I'm concerned, the first sentence sounds neutral, just a plain statement. But the second one emphasizes the dual nature of framing.
 

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Hi there,
Any native speakers help?

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Nightmare was spot on.
 

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Thanks Barb!
I've just seen that I misspelled "two", I wrote "to" :)

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Nightmare was spot on.

Yes, Nightmare85 is perfectly right. I am just trying to justify that grammatically.

Here two things (a prepositional phrase and noun clause) are involved, (1) to the physical frame of the picture (2) how you look at or understand a situation. Normally, ‘both’ as a determiner can describe two things if the action/state denoted by a verb links the two things. In sentence (1) the verb ‘refer’ does not link the two things.
Both is inappropriate where the verb does not apply to each of two things by itself.
In sentence (2) both is used with and to link two parallel statements.
 
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