BTW, is Moon cake a one word or two separate words? Thanks

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BTW, is moon cake a one word or two separate words?
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Does it remain unchanged in its singular and plural form?

Confused cuz some said it's a one word as in "mooncake" and some said, it's a two separate word as in " moon cake ".

Plus, do we say moon cakes or mooncakes or just moon cake or moon cake ( plural form I mean) ?

Sorry for posting such a confusing question! Please help T_T
 

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Re: BTW, is Moon cake a one word or two separate words? Than

The cake made for the Moon Festival is spelled as either one word, 'mooncake' or as two words, moon cake.

The plural forms are 'mooncakes' and 'moon cakes.

Whether 'm' is capitalized ('Moon') or not, doesn't seem to be an issue.

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Some mooncakes are delicious, many however, are not. Can you imagine eating a 'cake' filled with beef or egg? Not my cup of tea. And the ones filled with green bean paste are just plain nasty. :(

I much prefer the fruit-filled ones! :D

Incidentally, the Chinese eat mooncakes during the 'Mid-Autumn Festival', which usually falls in September. Because these are a specialty associated with a festival, the shops like to charge grandly for them - about US$40 (approx. £25) for 12 cakes which are only 3 inches in diameter!
 
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"about US$40 (approx. £25) for 12 cakes which are only 3 inches in diameter!"


----my god, sir, you must buy some kind of luxurious moon cakes.
basically, by the standard of the public, you can buy a box of cakes using
us$ 5. hehe, but if you wanna take it as a present, then maybe you would have to be tricked into this "luxurious gift". if you like it, buy it in other time but mid-autumn. then it would be cheaper.
xixi, i know the "green bean paste" . it's delicious for me, for many chinese.
 

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Well, there is no accounting for taste. :wink:

I think the phrase you are looking for is fancy mooncakes (rather than luxurious mooncakes).

(Say: any time but mid-autumn. It's cheaper then.)

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fancy is meaning "favorite"?
xixi, i refer to its expensive price. $40 .wow.
i never tasted this kind of cakes
 
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shane said:
Some mooncakes are delicious, many however, are not. Can you imagine eating a 'cake' filled with beef or egg? Not my cup of tea. And the ones filled with green bean paste are just plain nasty. :(

I much prefer the fruit-filled ones! :D

Incidentally, the Chinese eat mooncakes during the 'Mid-Autumn Festival', which usually falls in September. Because these are a specialty associated with a festival, the shops like to charge grandly for them - about US$40 (approx. £25) for 12 cakes which are only 3 inches in diameter!

Do you have them in chinatown in Milton Keynes? Or is there a chinatown in MK?

The hotels in say Shenzhen charge a bomb for them too. In Singapore, a box of four ranges from equivalent US$25 to US$40 also. Some restaurants make a quarter of their annual takings just from mooncakes.
Many years back, they only had green bean and yellow bean paste, and nuts inside. Now it has become big business and varieties sprout like hot mooncakes. I guess you've heard of the story behind the festival? :wink:
 

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jwschang said:
Do you have them in chinatown in Milton Keynes? Or is there a chinatown in MK?

No, there isn't a Chinatown in MK, but there is one in London. Having said that, I haven't been to the UK for over a year, so I don't know how much they cost there!

The expensive ones I was referring to are sold in the French supermarket (Carrefour), and they employ beautifully slender girls dressed in qi paos (or cheong sams) to attract the customers. Of course, I don't buy the expensive ones, being the cheapskate that I am. :p

I was told that these expensive ones are a way of exploiting the 'face' system in China. If you give a really expensive box of mooncakes to someone, it earns you great respect in the future.

I guess you've heard of the story behind the festival? :wink:

Yes, I have been told the story behind this particular festival. What was the girl's name again? I've forgotten! :oops:
 
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I was told that these expensive ones are a way of exploiting the 'face' system in China. If you give a really expensive box of mooncakes to someone, it earns you great respect in the future.

When you came to China? you have actually known about chinese things la.
 

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I came to China in the spring of 2001. Since then, I've only been back to my hometown in the UK once, but I plan to go back again next year!

By the way, You might want to say 'When did you come to China?', and 'You know a lot about Chinese customs and cultures'.

I hope you don't mind my little corrections. :)
 
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shane said:
I came to China in the spring of 2001. Since then, I've only been back to my hometown in the UK once, but I plan to go back again next year!

By the way, You might want to say 'When did you come to China?', and 'You know a lot about Chinese customs and cultures'.

I hope you don't mind my little corrections. :)


Shoot, you're too nice, of course I won't mind your corrections. Instead,
I'm really grateful to see anyone can pick on my English.
Do you mind if i ask where you are now? If you are in GuangZhou, you are certain to hear about LiYang, right? He said a golden rule----Enjoy losing "face" .
Btw, is it formal to write "face" system of China in essay?
 

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I'm in Dalian right now, and I don't plan to move anywhere else, if the truth be told. I love it here! :D

As for Li Yang and his Crazy English - I think he has done a lot of good in boosting students' confidence when it comes to speaking English!

Btw, is it formal to write "face" system of China in essay?

That's a good question. I don't think 'face' would be the right term, but for the life of me I can't think what term would be more suitable! Maybe someone else here can come along with a solution... ;)
 

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eric2004 said:
fancy is meaning "favorite"?
xixi, i refer to its expensive price. $40 .wow.
i never tasted this kind of cakes

Well, luxorious isn't usually applied to food. But a food can be fancy. That might mean, for example, that it is decorated especially nicely. I would certainly regard a $40 cake as fancy. That would be without even looking at it. In that case, the word would refer to the price as much as anything. Presumably, a plain cake would not cost $40. (I would hope not.)

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Sir shane, are you in Da Lian Science and Industry University? I don't know how to express this speciality of chinese. I thought the meaning of "face" in China has been accepted by native english people. It seems that i go wrong.
Btw, you aren't an examiner of Ielts, are you? 555, If you were, I must be a lucky dog. xixi.


Sir RonBee, thanks for your help again. Sigh, it is so pity i come here so late. I have to face up to my test right away. And I'm really not sure my english writing. I didn't have any experience to chat with foreigners before. Just a Chinese-American girl has been give me a hand. But she has to do her own work for she's still a college student.
Whatever, nice to see all your guys. (i don't know whether "guy" is offensive. I only wanna express my impression for you. And don't mind what i say , because i'm poor about exotic cultural background.
As for mooncake. xixi. sorry you're wrong. Sir shane is right. it is just a face system in china. It does not mean if its price is high, it must be delicious. it is more likely to be a present for others.
Thanks for your consideration.
 

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eric2004 said:
Sir shane, are you in Da Lian Science and Industry University? I don't know how to express this speciality of chinese. I thought the meaning of "face" in China has been accepted by native english people. It seems that i go wrong.
Btw, you aren't an examiner of Ielts, are you? 555, If you were, I must be a lucky dog. xixi.

I think most of us know what is meant by face. Shane teaches ESL in China. I don't think he is an IELTS examiner. By the way, what does IELTS stand for?

eric2004 said:
Sir RonBee, thanks for your help again. Sigh, it is so pity i come here so late. I have to face up to my test right away. And I'm really not sure my english writing. I didn't have any experience to chat with foreigners before. Just a Chinese-American girl has been give me a hand. But she has to do her own work for she's still a college student.
Whatever, nice to see all your guys. (i don't know whether "guy" is offensive. I only wanna express my impression for you. And don't mind what i say , because i'm poor about exotic cultural background.
As for mooncake. xixi. sorry you're wrong. Sir shane is right. it is just a face system in china. It does not mean if its price is high, it must be delicious. it is more likely to be a present for others.
Thanks for your consideration.

No, guy is not considered an offensive term by most people.

I have never had any mooncake, but I saw a picture of it, and it looks good. :D
 
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shane said:
Yes, I have been told the story behind this particular festival. What was the girl's name again? I've forgotten! :oops:

Are you talking about the girl and the rabbit on the moon? Her name is Cang Er (Cang for frequent).
But we have a different story here in Nanyang. It says in an uprising against the Qing dysnasty, the rebels circulated a secret paper message inside the mooncakes. :wink:
 

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jwschang said:
But we have a different story here in Nanyang. It says in an uprising against the Qing dysnasty, the rebels circulated a secret paper message inside the mooncakes. :wink:

Cool, I've never heard that story before! I'll ask around, and see if anyone else here knows that story... :)
 

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eric2004 said:
Sir shane, are you in Da Lian Science and Industry University? I don't know how to express this speciality of chinese.

I would say 'Dalian University of Science and Industry'.

Btw, you aren't an examiner of Ielts, are you? 555, If you were, I must be a lucky dog. xixi.
No, I'm not an IELTS examiner, but I have taught IELTS (oral module) before. I taught it here for just over a year.

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By the way, what does IELTS stand for?
International English Language Testing System. ;)
 
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