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Post comments here. What do you like? What don't you like? Describe your feelings about one or more poems.

Any comments will be gratefully received.

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Hi RonBee. :) I'm learning about William Shakespeare. Do you know what are Shakespearen Sonnet and Italian Sonnet? Can you give me the definition?
 

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I don't have the answer to your question now, but I'll find out, and I'll get back to you on it. It probably won't take long.

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Thank you very much! I'm so sorry if I was bothering you, Ronbee. I was looking for the definition of Shakespearen sonnet and Italian sonnet for 3 hours but I couldn't find it. You are the best! :up:
 

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usaorangelove said:
Thank you very much! I'm so sorry if I was bothering you, Ronbee. I was looking for the definition of Shakespearen sonnet and Italian sonnet for 3 hours but I couldn't find it. You are the best! :up:

You're quite welcome. But you didn't think I was finished, did you? ;-)

Here is one of Shakespeare's most famous sonnets.

Sonnet XVIII.

“Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day?”


SHALL I compare thee to a summer’s day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate:
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
And summer’s lease hath all too short a date:
Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines,
And often is his gold complexion dimm’d;
And every fair from fair sometime declines,
By chance, or nature’s changing course untrimm’d;
But thy eternal summer shall not fade,
Nor lose possession of that fair thou ow’st,
Nor shall death brag thou wander’st in his shade,
When in eternal lines to time thou grow’st;
So long as men can breathe, or eyes can see,
So long lives this, and this gives life to thee.

http://www.bartleby.com/70/50018.html
 

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More. :)

Another sonnet:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/UsingEnglish/messages?msg=4008.28

The Italian sonnet is an 8-line stanza ("octet") which sets up a situation that is commented on or "turned" by the following 6-line stanza ("sestet"). The Shakespearean sonnet is the same number of lines, in three quatrains followed by a rhyming couplet.
http://forums.about.com/ab-poetry/messages?msg=22243.2

SONNET POETRY FORMS, PART 1:
http://www.geocities.com/bikies_poetry/sonnet1.html
(It seems to be a pretty comprehensive analysis of sonnet forms.)

This is a link to the Teenwriting Workshop. Go here: http://forums.about.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=ab-teenwriting3&msg=976.1

Finally:
http://poetry.about.com/cs/sonnets/
 
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WOW! You are so cool to find those web sites in one day! Thank you very much for the sites. I am really thankful, RonBee. I read your poems and I love it! I think you are a great poet.
 

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usaorangelove said:
WOW! You are so cool to find those web sites in one day! Thank you very much for the sites. I am really thankful, RonBee. I read your poems and I love it! I think you are a great poet.

Thanks. :oops:

Doing the research for that, I learned a few things about sonnets.

:D

You might find the teenwriting site especially interesting. "Kids" from all over the place post on that forum. (Tell them I sent you. :wink: )

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Hey, RonBee 8) I went to the teenwriting workshop web site that you gave me, and it was very interesting. Thanks. I learned about Shakespearen sonnet and Italian Sonnet, and all thanks to you. I want to discuss about poetry with you more. :wink:
 

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I usually don't talk about poetry much. I only write it.

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Now's your chance then, eh! :D :D :wink: lol
 

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I can talk about poetry a little, but Niki is better qualified for that. I do know what I like tho. :wink:

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usaorangelove said:
Hey, RonBee 8) I went to the teenwriting workshop web site that you gave me, and it was very interesting. Thanks. I learned about Shakespearen sonnet and Italian Sonnet, and all thanks to you. I want to discuss about poetry with you more. :wink:

If you have any more questions, Niki can help you with that.

They have some talented writers over at the teenwriting forum, and it's a friendly group. Introduce yourself. Perhaps you have a poem or a story you would like some comments on. Or perhaps you have something to say about something contributed by somebody else.

Do you plan to write a sonnet or two?

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Thanks, RonBee. I'm planning to write sonnet at school. I would love to join teenwriting forum, but who is Niki :?:
 

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usaorangelove said:
Thanks, RonBee. I'm planning to write sonnet at school. I would love to join teenwriting forum, but who is Niki :?:

Niki is the host of the forum. (About.com calls them Guides.) From what I can tell, she has been doing a good job. I haven't been very active there lately, but if you have something you want me to critique you can post it here or on the other UE forum. (I might get back to doing critiques there, but I get burned out on it every once in a while.)

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