Debates

[blouen]

I am often engaged in debates(not heated arguments) or discussions which involves giving of opinions and proving whether whose opinion emerges to be right. I think that people's views and principles nowadays doesn't have a ground to stand on. So I feel obliged to help them with this but is often misundestood. Of course, if they prove me wrong I am willing to renounce my wrong belief or principle for the new better one.



What do you think of debate?

 

[rhapsody_08]

I am often engaged in debates(not heated arguments) or discussions which involves giving of opinions and proving whether whose opinion emerges to be right. I think that people's views and principles nowadays doesn't have a ground to stand on. So I feel obliged to help them with this but is often misundestood. Of course, if they prove me wrong I am willing to renounce my wrong belief or principle for the new better one.



What do you think of debate?

Well, for me debate is a good way of sharing your ideas and opinions... But sometimes it becomes a hot argument if your opponent take it seriously and not a sport or a type of person who really don't like to be defeated by someone...... And I think having a debate about politics and religion is not really advisable coz' lots of people who are friends become enemies because of it....

Actually, I love to have a debate especially if the topic is really interesting and that i'm gonna gain knowledge from it....

 

[blouen]

Well, you're right about religion debates. friends turn enemies from arguments about faith and beliefs. I am one who loves talking about this issue. For me, if one is truly searching for the truth, he should not be afraid to engage himself in debates like this. He should be open that his knowledge in his belief could have lapses and probably be false.
And if someone thinks he is in the truth, why be afraid of sharing it to others... I think others also deserve to know the truth that you hold and keep to yourself.

 

[rhapsody_08]

Well, you're right about religion debates. friends turn enemies from arguments about faith and beliefs. I am one who loves talking about this issue. For me, if one is truly searching for the truth, he should not be afraid to engage himself in debates like this. He should be open that his knowledge in his belief could have lapses and probably be false.
And if someone thinks he is in the truth, why be afraid of sharing it to others... I think others also deserve to know the truth that you hold and keep to yourself.

yes, your right... but everyone thinks differently and do have their own beliefs... so, i think if the topic is about religion you better have the sharing of your opinions/beliefs instead of having an argument or comparing your religion and beliefs to others...

in debate we want to share ideas but not to make enemies...also other makes friends through debate......

 

[New Orleans]

I totally agree with raphsody, she has the point that everyone is entitled with his belief. I think religion should isn't be the topic to debate on.. Sharing is good but swaying others belief is not good.

 

[blouen]

I totally agree with raphsody, she has the point that everyone is entitled with his belief. I think religion should isn't be the topic to debate on.. Sharing is good but swaying others belief is not good.

Why not?

IMO, every topic/opinion is debatable/open to discussion. It shouldn't be a heated one though. And since religion has their source of beliefs, well, that gives us something as to where to ground our discussion in. It's not comparing of beliefs I think for even in a group of similar faith, there could be a slight difference in their beliefs. I would rather call it, finding the truth. A real searcher of the truth should open his mind to understand other faiths as well, they may give him a hint on which truly is worth believing into.

 

[rhapsody_08]

Why not?

IMO, every topic/opinion is debatable/open to discussion. It shouldn't be a heated one though. And since religion has their source of beliefs, well, that gives us something as to where to ground our discussion in. It's not comparing of beliefs I think for even in a group of similar faith, there could be a slight difference in their beliefs. I would rather call it, finding the truth. A real searcher of the truth should open his mind to understand other faiths as well, they may give him a hint on which truly is worth believing into.

your saying that debating about religion won't be a comparison of beliefs, but i think in every topic that we discuss or talk about especially if it is a debate we always compare things and share our opinions about it.... In debate also, nobody is wrong... coz' as i've told before it's a sharing of opinions and in opinions everything is right......

 

[rhapsody_08]

I totally agree with raphsody, she has the point that everyone is entitled with his belief. I think religion should isn't be the topic to debate on.. Sharing is good but swaying others belief is not good.

thanks new orleans....:up:

rhapsody...:cheers:

 

[blouen]

your saying that debating about religion won't be a comparison of beliefs, but i think in every topic that we discuss or talk about especially if it is a debate we always compare things and share our opinions about it.... In debate also, nobody is wrong... coz' as i've told before it's a sharing of opinions and in opinions everything is right......

You've got a point but look at this... We all got opinions, true. But if all opinions/beliefs are true, which is TRUER or the TRUEST? That's the good thing about the religion discussion/debate, we(for Christians) have the Bible to ground our conversations. Without it, I'd say, all opinions are true.

We'll I think same for politics... they've got their books to ground their talk on. For in our world, we all know that there are standards/fundamentals in almost everything(if not all).

Sometimes people argue for some are uninformed, misinformed, or ignorant... and we may be categorized with these people, and that's why we discuss/debate on something.... to find the TRUTH, with the given evidences/bases.

 

[rhapsody_08]

You've got a point but look at this... We all got opinions, true. But if all opinions/beliefs are true, which is TRUER or the TRUEST? That's the good thing about the religion discussion/debate, we(for Christians) have the Bible to ground our conversations. Without it, I'd say, all opinions are true.

We'll I think same for politics... they've got their books to ground their talk on. For in our world, we all know that there are standards/fundamentals in almost everything(if not all).

Sometimes people argue for some are uninformed, misinformed, or ignorant... and we may be categorized with these people, and that's why we discuss/debate on something.... to find the TRUTH, with the given evidences/bases.

have you seen any debate :argue: wherein the mediator said that the other side is the truest and the other one is not....??????

 

[rhapsody_08]

have you seen any debate :argue: wherein the mediator said that the other side is the truest and the other one is not....??????

i mean the moderator...

 

[rhapsody_08]

to find the TRUTH, with the given evidences/bases.

The reason why there are debates is to know the point of views coming from the two opposing sides... to compare or to see the good and the bad points of it... NOT TELLING WHO'S RIGHT AND WHO'S WRONG and...
of course we don't go out on a debate to search for the TRUTH... WE CAN'T FIND IT THERE.

 

[blouen]

The reason why there are debates is to know the point of views coming from the two opposing sides... to compare or to see the good and the bad points of it... NOT TELLING WHO'S RIGHT AND WHO'S WRONG and...
of course we don't go out on a debate to search for the TRUTH... WE CAN'T FIND IT THERE.

And why not?

I'm not talking about the so stuffy debates that shows two persons in front of a big turn out; sharing their opinions, asking questions and giving answers, and then mastered by an arbiter. No, not that kind of debate. I know that in that type, the arbiter would not give his judgment on who wins and who doesn't - he might be giving a biased opinion then.

But this... In an informal debate/discussion wherein two people decently share and evaluate their opinions/ideas basing on the BOOK. If only both would be intellectually honest and willing to accept new principles/teaching that would be proved right, the winner can surely be decided by both debaters.

And in my experience, a debater knows if he is on the winning/losing side. But due to some intellectual dishonesty, and proctecting of one's group(and not of seeking the TRUTH), one denies to come clean as the loser.

have you seen any debate :argue:wherein the mediator said that the other side is the truest and the other one is not....??????

I saw someone admits that he is wrong, and I've seen someone made a total 180.:changes:

 

[rhapsody_08]

NOT EVERYTHING THAT IS WRITTEN ON THE BOOK IS TRUE......we are humans so we need to gain some from our experiences and these experiences are not all written on the book...There are some things that are written but nobody can prove that it really happens...WHAT ABOUT THOSE THINGS THAT REALLY HAPPEN????BUT NOT BEING RECORDED????sometimes we need not to rely on books most of the time..We should avoid being BOOKISH....Maybe we can be a BOOKWORM to get some information that can help us but not really to RELY on the book itself.....

 

[rhapsody_08]

You Will Never Know If Your On The Winning Side Unless You Are Too Confident To Do That.......

 

[blouen]

Then where do we ground our religious beliefs? I hope not in mere opinions.

 

[sara88]

Well, you're right about religion debates. friends turn enemies from arguments about faith and beliefs. I am one who loves talking about this issue. For me, if one is truly searching for the truth, he should not be afraid to engage himself in debates like this. He should be open that his knowledge in his belief could have lapses and probably be false.
And if someone thinks he is in the truth, why be afraid of sharing it to others... I think others also deserve to know the truth that you hold and keep to yourself.

Friends turn to enemies not only in religious debates, that has nothing to do with religion, however there are some basics that we should keep in mind regarding debates, for example we should be open-minded, modest, aiming to know more and to accept the most logical an coherent opinion even it's from the other side..those are some tips for a successful debate..
It's a good way to search the truth and to share it with others in addition to our own researches..
So there's no problem to discuss or to have debates about religions, and in my case I love to do so.

 

[blouen]

Amen!:up: