[Grammar] ellipses

[newkeenlearner]

I posted my question in another forum:
https://forum.wordreference.com/thr...t-a-sunscreen-ellipses.3314718/#post-16788392

However, my teacher stated another different idea:

This stated that 15 minutes a day is healthy - but not 15 minutes at midday, when the sun is strongest.

Could you please help me?
which one is correct? Maybe both of them are correct. I don't know which part should participate in ellipses.

 

[Barb_D]

I don't really understand your question.
However, I can tell you that I interpret the statement as saying "You can spend 15 minutes outside without sunscreen, but this 15 minutes should not be at mid-day."

 

[emsr2d2]

I don't understand the question either. There are no ellipses (brackets) in the sentence. Are you trying to add some?

 

[newkeenlearner]

I don't understand the question either. There are no ellipses (brackets) in the sentence. Are you trying to add some?

Sorry about that.Now, I am trying to make my explanation more clear, and I am not sure if this kind of grammar called ellipses in English or not.

This is my sentence:
However, don't spend too long in the sun- 15 minutes a day without a sunscreen is a healthy amount, and not at midday.

What makes me confused most is that how we can expand the underlined part?
Let me give you an example:
I love coffee but not ice cream coffee.
we expand the second part as:
I love coffee but I don't love ice cream coffee.
Here, "not ice cream coffee" is replaced by "I don't love ice cream coffee".
Now, in my example how it would be work?
For example:
However, don't spend too long in the sun- 15 minutes a day without a sunscreen is a healthy amount, and not 15 minutes at midday without sunscreen.

OR
However, don't spend too long in the sun- 15 minutes a day without a sunscreen is a healthy amount, and do not spend too long in the sun at midday.

I don' know "NOT" represented what part of the sentence?(the first sentence or the second sentence of my original example)

 

[andrewg927]

First, it should be coffee ice cream. I don't know what ice cream coffee is.
For your question,

However, don't spend too long in the sun- 15 minutes a day without a sunscreen is a healthy amount, and not 15 minutes at midday without sunscreen. - Correct.

 

[newkeenlearner]

First, it should be coffee ice cream. I don't know what ice cream coffee is.
For your question,

However, don't spend too long in the sun- 15 minutes a day without a sunscreen is a healthy amount, and not 15 minutes at midday without sunscreen. - Correct.

Thanks for your help and reply.
What is called this kind of structure in English? I think it can't be considered as "Ellipses".

 

[GoesStation]

What is [STRIKE]called[/STRIKE] this kind of structure called in English? I don't think it's [STRIKE]can't be[/STRIKE] considered an [STRIKE]as[/STRIKE] "ellipsis".

See above. I'm sorry I don't know the answer to your question. Please remember that questions require subject-verb inversion.

 

[emsr2d2]

"Coffee ice cream" is ice cream that's flavoured with coffee. I think an "ice cream coffee" is coffee with a dollop of ice cream in it. We used to make "ice cream hot chocolate" when I was a kid. We made a cup of steaming hot chocolate and then dropped a scoop of vanilla ice cream in. It was weird but delicious.

 

[YAMATO2201]

I don't understand the question either. There are no ellipses (brackets) in the sentence. Are you trying to add some?

The plural of "ellipsis" is "ellipses".

ellipsis = the practice of leaving a word or words out of a sentence when they are not necessary for understanding it (Macmillan English Dictionary)