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Dear teacher,

Please can you help me with a few questions. We are doing a course on English teaching to second language students, and I'm stuck on a few of the questions.

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1. Write in simple terms, as if explaining to a learner of English, how you would make the mistake in the following sentences clear:

"I'd like some informations about your courses."

(I can see that "informations" should be "information" but I'm not sure how to explain this in simple English.

2. "Have you got any money? Yes. I've been to the bank yesterday."
(I see that "I've been" is incorrect" but again I don't know how to explain the mistake.

3. "Is John ill? He's lost a lot of weight? Yes, he is rather slender these days, isn't he?"
I think "slender" is incorrect, but technically it means the same as "thin" although you probably wouldn't use it in this sentence. Or perhaps "isn't he" is wrong???

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Imagine that you are teaching a multilingual group of 12 learners at beginner level. What problems might they have in understanding these sentences; pronouncing theml and outline ideas on how you would teach these expressions.

Thank you so much!

Leigh-Anne (Annie)
 

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Dear teacher,

Please can you help me with a few questions. We are doing a course on English teaching to second language students, and I'm stuck on a few of the questions.

A.
1. Write in simple terms, as if explaining to a learner of English, how you would make the mistake in the following sentences clear:

"I'd like some informations about your courses."

(I can see that "informations" should be "information" but I'm not sure how to explain this in simple English.

"Information" is almost always a non-countable noun. We don't say one information, two informations, etc. We use words such as some, much, any, etc. Non-countable nouns do not take the plural form.

2. "Have you got any money? Yes. I've been to the bank yesterday."
(I see that "I've been" is incorrect" but again I don't know how to explain the mistake.

We do not use the present perfect tense to refer to a specific time period in the past. It does not fit with the word "yesterday". We would use the simple past with "yesterday". I went to the bank yesterday.

3. "Is John ill? He's lost a lot of weight? Yes, he is rather slender these days, isn't he?"
I think "slender" is incorrect, but technically it means the same as "thin" although you probably wouldn't use it in this sentence. Or perhaps "isn't he" is wrong???

On could use "slender" there, but that word has a positive connotation. It would fit the context better as "thin", "emaciated", "underweight", etc.

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Imagine that you are teaching a multilingual group of 12 learners at beginner level. What problems might they have in understanding these sentences; pronouncing them and outline ideas on how you would teach these expressions.

I'll leave that part for you. :wink:
 

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'Slender' is also rarely used for males, isn't it? ;-)
 

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'Slender' is also rarely used for males, isn't it? ;-)

Slender is used for males, sometimes. :wink:
 

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Slender or lean are seen as positive. Thin is more likely to be seen as negative.

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Slender or lean are seen as positive. Thin is more likely to be seen as negative.

:)

I wouldn't mind being called skinny myself.
 

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MikeNewYork said:
tdol said:
'Slender' is also rarely used for males, isn't it? ;-)

Slender is used for males, sometimes. :wink:

Sure: He's got a slender chance. ;-)
 
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tdol said:
MikeNewYork said:
tdol said:
'Slender' is also rarely used for males, isn't it? ;-)

Slender is used for males, sometimes. :wink:

Sure: He's got a slender chance. ;-)

Slender gives me the idea of a delicate build, but this is all very relative. I'd never call a man beautiful, but some people do.
 

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Susie Smith said:
RonBee said:
Slender or lean are seen as positive. Thin is more likely to be seen as negative.

:)

I wouldn't mind being called skinny myself.

I think skinny is more or less neutral in its connotations. Also, in the expression "You can't be too thin or too rich" the word thin definitely has positive connotations.

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RonBee said:
Susie Smith said:
RonBee said:
Slender or lean are seen as positive. Thin is more likely to be seen as negative.

:)

I wouldn't mind being called skinny myself.

I think skinny is more or less neutral in its connotations. Also, in the expression "You can't be too thin or too rich" the word thin definitely has positive connotations.

:wink:

In a hospital, "thin" is not always a positive word. +|;-)
 
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MikeNewYork said:
RonBee said:
Susie Smith said:
RonBee said:
Slender or lean are seen as positive. Thin is more likely to be seen as negative.

:)

I wouldn't mind being called skinny myself.

I think skinny is more or less neutral in its connotations. Also, in the expression "You can't be too thin or too rich" the word thin definitely has positive connotations.

:wink:

In a hospital, "thin" is not always a positive word. +|;-)

I guess standards do change, but when I was growing up, it was definitely not a compliment to be called skinny. A skinny person was scrawny, bony, and underweight - too thin to be attractive.
 

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'Sinny' and 'thin' both have negative connotations for me, though 'skinny' much more so. ;-)
 

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tdol said:
'Sinny' and 'thin' both have negative connotations for me, though 'skinny' much more so. ;-)

I agree. :wink:
 

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I think being a skinny kid is somewhat different from being a skinny adult. I don't think any adult would want to be called skinny, although most would consider that better than being called fat. (Of course, even worse is fat slob.)

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I think being a skinny kid is somewhat different from being a skinny adult. I don't think any adult would want to be called skinny, although most would consider that better than being called fat. (Of course, even worse is fat slob.)

:)

Well said! :lol:
 

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I have my moments. :wink:

Thanks.

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About this one: willowy. Someone who refers to "the willowy Anne Coulter" is definitely not having negative thoughts about the woman.

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