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Is it ever possible to use the preposition with after the verb to happen? If yes, would it have the same meaning as to happen to?
 

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I'm not a teacher, but would have no problem with:

"That's just the typical problem that happens with Jim in the driving seat".

i.e. meaning:

"That's just the typical problem that happens when Jim is driving [the car or (figuratively) the project]".
 

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That always happens with men at an Australian barbeque: they all stand around talking sport with each other, and let the women get on with themselves.
 

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I see! It means that it happens to people when Jim is driving. Is that so?
 

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Sort of, but not necessarILy people. Maybe the car arrived late, or got lost; 'happens with ... + <someone doing something>' refers to a recurrent or predictable situation. 'He made the cement too dry, and his wall only lasted a week' 'That always happens with trainee brick-layers.'

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There were several accidents on the roads last weekend. It always happens with drunk drivers (meaning, when there are drunk drivers involved). Did I finally get it right?
 

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Yes, but I would tweak it slightly for other reasons:

It regularly happens with drunk drivers on the road (meaning, when there are drunk drivers on the road).

"Always" tends to demand substantiation in the text, "regularly" doesn't.
 

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Yes, but I would tweak it slightly for other reasons:

It regularly happens with drunk drivers on the road (meaning, when there are drunk drivers on the road).

"Always" tends to demand substantiation in the text, "regularly" doesn't.

I hadn't noticed that. :up:;-)

Incidentally, some people avoid using 'regularly' in the sense 'commonly/frequently/often', because they look for a regula (Latin, ="rule") when they see that word. I don't expect everyone to apply this principle - which in some circles used to be a prescription - but it may be of interest.

(OK - I'll stop digging ;-))

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Hi BobK

Almost 50 years ago, when I got my O-level in Latin, "Rex" meant "King/Ruler".

I looked up "regula" in Wikipedia and it came back with:
Regula is a planetary object in the fictional Star Trek universe.

Cheers, mate :-D
 
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