hate for you to

[FW]

Are these sentences correct:
1-I would hate him to win.
2-I would hate for him to win.
3-I would hate it for him to win.

 

[gwendolinest]

Are these sentences correct:
1-I would hate him to win.
2-I would hate for him to win.
3-I would hate it for him to win.

1 is correct; 2 and 3 are wrong.

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[FW]

Thank you.
I am sure what you say applies to British English but I just wonder if an American would give the same answer.

 

[Tdol]

I think Americans might well feel differently- I have heard 'hate for him'

 

[RonBee]

Are these sentences correct:
1-I would hate him to win.
2-I would hate for him to win.
3-I would hate it for him to win.

I cannot, of course, speak for all Americans, but my advice is the opposite of Gwen's.

1. No.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.

It is apparent (tho not certain) that it is an AE/BE difference.

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[gwendolinest]

If you say 2 and 3 are correct, I won’t argue with you. (My ears hear differently, that’s all.)

But I can assure you that the construction “hate” + noun + “to” infinitive is perfectly valid. There is nothing wrong with it whatsoever.

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[FW]

I really think this is a difference between American English and British English.
I saw an excerpt from the new Lars Von Triers film "Dogville" with Nicole Kidman, and if I am not misaken Ms. Kidman says at one point: "I'd hate it for you to think ..." (I know Ms. Kidman is Australian but she has lived in America for a long time and what's more the film takes place in America.) The sentence sounded very strange to me and that's what prompted me to post this question. May-be we can do a poll on this or something?

 

[Red5]

"I'd hate it for you to think ..." sounds odd to me too! A poll sounds like a good idea. Why not set one up?

 

[FW]

I am only a beginner. One of you people should do it!

 

[Red5]

I am only a beginner. One of you people should do it!

Done: https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=646

 

[RonBee]

If you say 2 and 3 are correct, I won’t argue with you. (My ears hear differently, that’s all.)

But I can assure you that the construction “hate” + noun + “to” infinitive is perfectly valid. There is nothing wrong with it whatsoever.

Well, we agree that we won't argue. :wink:

I don't have a grammatical formula to rely on--only my opinion.

Perhaps it's an AE/BE difference. I'm not certain.

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[RonBee]

"I'd hate it for you to think ..." seems perfectly fine to me.

[Edited to note that I missed the extra "it" about a hundred times.]

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