I have never seen my cousin getting angry ever since I knew him

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Can we say "I have never seen my cousin getting angry ever since I knew him"?
 

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Can we say "I have never seen my cousin getting angry ever since I knew him"?

It does not sound logical to me because cousins would normally know each other from an early age, unlike friends who get to know each other later in life
 

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Well, you could hardly have seen him get angry before you knew him! Forget the whole second half.

I have never seen my cousin get angry.
I have never seen my cousin angry.
I have never seen my cousin getting angry. (The use of "getting" is the least natural of the three.)
 

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I would say 'since I got to know him' instead of 'since I knew him' if the clause was not omitted.

It does not sound logical to me because cousins would normally know each other from an early age, unlike friends who get to know each other later in life
I have a cousin born in a Western country. We did not know each other until he came to my country.
 

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During my adolescence I got to know one cousin after another as they arrived in my country from Russia and Israel.
 

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Regardless of when the OP first met his/her cousin, it is still redundant to say "since I've known him" (which would be the grammatical version of "ever since I knew him"). The OP can only have seen his cousin do, or not do, anything since they first met. It's impossible for the OP to make any comments about what he saw before he met the cousin.

The statement would have more impact if we knew how long they have known each other.

I have known my cousin for 27 years and I have never seen him get angry! (Quite impressive.)
I have known my cousin for one month and I have never seen him get angry. (Definitely not impressive.)
 

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Regardless of when the OP first met his/her cousin, it is still redundant to say "since I've known him" (which would be the grammatical version of "ever since I knew him"). The OP can only have seen his cousin do, or not do, anything since they first met. It's impossible for the OP to make any comments about what he saw before he met the cousin.

The statement would have more impact if we knew how long they have known each other.

I have known my cousin for 27 years and I have never seen him get angry! (Quite impressive.)
I have known my cousin for one month and I have never seen him get angry. (Definitely not impressive.)

"I have never seen my friend getting angry ever since I knew him" okay so this construction doesn't work even if we are talking about a friend. Am I correct?

Regardless of when the OP first met his/her cousin, it is still redundant to say "since I've known him" (which would be the grammatical version of "ever since I knew him").

You are saying "Since I have known him" is the grammatical version but after since we use "past simple". Am I correct? Like "I haven't seen him since we left school". In a thread I also asked about using "present perfect" after since in these kinds of sentences but I was told it was wrong but now you are saying it is not.
 
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