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moonwalker

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Please take a few minutes to fill ___________ our No Risk and No Obligation Debt Cousultation & Analysis Form and submit by the end of this week.

a. out b.into c.in d.off
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fill in the form or fill out the form?

I think both are right. Right?

It is confusing. :oops:

I need your help.
 
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ggomad

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Hi, Blacknomi,

Is it used in the way that we--
fill in the blank(s) and fill out the form(s)?

As far as I can remeber, fill in means to insert words in the blank, whereas fill out means to complete the form.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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Thank you all for replying to my questions. :)

I have looked up the phrase in a dictionary.


fill in : phrasal verb
[transitive] to add information such as your name or address in the empty spaces on an official document: FILL OUT:
Please fill in your name and address in the space provided.
I spent over two hours filling in the application form.
Fill in the missing words.


fillout : phrasal verb
[transitive] to add information such as your name or address in the empty spaces on an official document: FILL IN:
It took a long time to fill out the application form.

Macmillan Publishers Ltd. 2002


I think both fill out a form" and "fill in a form" are right.


I believe the question above has two answers.


Have a nice day! :D
 

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moonwalker said:
Thank you all for replying to my questions. :)

I have looked up the phrase in a dictionary.


fill in : phrasal verb
[transitive] to add information such as your name or address in the empty spaces on an official document: FILL OUT:
Please fill in your name and address in the space provided.
I spent over two hours filling in the application form.
Fill in the missing words.


fillout : phrasal verb
[transitive] to add information such as your name or address in the empty spaces on an official document: FILL IN:
It took a long time to fill out the application form.

Macmillan Publishers Ltd. 2002


I think both fill out a form" and "fill in a form" are right.


I believe the question above has two answers.


Have a nice day! :D

I agree with ggomad. :D In addition, Fill in means, to add X to Y, whereas fill out means, to complete Y by adding in X.

Fill in (the blanks) on the form; fill out (i.e. complete) the form.

EX: Please fill in your name and address in the space provided.
EX: I spent over two hours filling in the (blanks on the) application form.
EX: Fill in the missing words in the blanks.
EX: She is filling him in (i.e. Idiom: She's giving him information; she's adding in what he doesn't know).

EX: It took a long time to fill out (i.e. complete) the application form.
EX: She fills out a sweater well. (i.e. Idiom: She completes the sweater's shape)

All the best, :D
 
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Casiopea said:
moonwalker said:
Thank you all for replying to my questions. :)

I have looked up the phrase in a dictionary.


fill in : phrasal verb
[transitive] to add information such as your name or address in the empty spaces on an official document: FILL OUT:
Please fill in your name and address in the space provided.
I spent over two hours filling in the application form.
Fill in the missing words.


fillout : phrasal verb
[transitive] to add information such as your name or address in the empty spaces on an official document: FILL IN:
It took a long time to fill out the application form.

Macmillan Publishers Ltd. 2002


I think both fill out a form" and "fill in a form" are right.


I believe the question above has two answers.


Have a nice day! :D

I agree with ggomad. :D In addition, Fill in means, to add X to Y, whereas fill out means, to complete Y by adding in X.

Fill in (the blanks) on the form; fill out (i.e. complete) the form.

EX: Please fill in your name and address in the space provided.
EX: I spent over two hours filling in the (blanks on the) application form.
EX: Fill in the missing words in the blanks.
EX: She is filling him in (i.e. Idiom: She's giving him information; she's adding in what he doesn't know).

EX: It took a long time to fill out (i.e. complete) the application form.
EX: She fills out a sweater well. (i.e. Idiom: She completes the sweater's shape)

All the best, :D




I know what your point is.

But take a look at the following citation.
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fill sth in/out (WRITE) phrasal verb [M]
to write the necessary information on an official document:
to fill in a form/questionnaire

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/
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That is cited from Cambridge advanced learners' dictionary.

I know the expression " fill in the blanks."

But I think the phrasal verb "fill in" can have various objects,
as you can see, such as blanks, names and addresses, a form, etc.

If "fill in a form" is not acceptable or appropriate,
why the well-known English dictionary says it's ok.

It's weird.
 
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ggomad

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I'd say no one dictionary is perfect in all its articles.

I also suspect that this confusion may be more prevalent in British English.

American Heritage Dic. is another good source in learning the usage of English, if I might add. Its link is,

http://www.bartleby.com/61/95/F0119500.html

Bye for now.~~
 

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ggomad said:
I'd say no one dictionary is perfect in all its articles.

I also suspect that this confusion may be more prevalent in British English.

American Heritage Dic. is another good source in learning the usage of English, if I might add. Its link is,

http://www.bartleby.com/61/95/F0119500.html

Bye for now.~~

To add a word, phrase into a blank is to complete that particular sentence/line. To do that for the entire form is to complete the entire form. The difference here is between completing a line and completing a form. Fill in ~ Fill out are used synonymously by speakers--but not by all speakers) because they share a semantic similarity, notably 'complete': Fill out means to complete the entire form/shape, whereas fill in means to complete the sentences/lines, the result of which produces a filled out form, a completed form.

Trust your instincts! That is, asking questions is a good thing. :D

All the best,
 
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moonwalker

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Casiopea said:
ggomad said:
I'd say no one dictionary is perfect in all its articles.

I also suspect that this confusion may be more prevalent in British English.

American Heritage Dic. is another good source in learning the usage of English, if I might add. Its link is,

http://www.bartleby.com/61/95/F0119500.html

Bye for now.~~

To add a word, phrase into a blank is to complete that particular sentence/line. To do that for the entire form is to complete the entire form. The difference here is between completing a line and completing a form. Fill in ~ Fill out are used synonymously by speakers--but not by all speakers) because they share a semantic similarity, notably 'complete': Fill out means to complete the entire form/shape, whereas fill in means to complete the sentences/lines, the result of which produces a filled out form, a completed form.

Trust your instincts! That is, asking questions is a good thing. :D

All the best,



Now, I have found it all out.

Casiopea. You must be from the U.S.

According to Cambridge Advanced Learners' dictionary,
it says that " fill in a form" and "fill out a form" are ok.

According to Macmillan dictionary, it also says that
"fill in a form" and " fill out a form" are ok.

Last, Oxford Advanced Learners' dictionary says
that "fill out a form" is common in American English.

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fill in something
(also fill sth out especially in AmE) to complete a form, etc. by writing information on it: to fill in an application form To order, fill in the coupon on p 54.
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I don't usually refer to one dictionary.
My favorites are Cambridge and Macmillan.

And I'm gonna add one from now on, Oxford.

Webster is also good.

:D
 

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:hi: Hi moonwalker,

Have you seen http://www.onelook.com/ ? It gives you access to all the dictionaries you mentioned, and many more!

PS - you can search onelook.com from the dictionary bar at the top of this page. ;-)
 
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Red5 said:
:hi: Hi moonwalker,

Have you seen http://www.onelook.com/ ? It gives you access to all the dictionaries you mentioned, and many more!

PS - you can search onelook.com from the dictionary bar at the top of this page. ;-)



Wow. It's excellent! :wink:
 

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My pleasure. :-D
 
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Red5 said:
My pleasure. :-D

If I had known that there was a reference column on the left,
I wouldn't have looked up the phrasal verb in the several dictionaries.
:x

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Fill in = complete a form (UK)
I FILLED IN the application form and posted it off.

Fill out = complete a form (US)
I FILLED OUT the application form and mailed it.

https://www.usingenglish.com/reference/phrasal-verbs/f.html
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"fill in" and "fill out" are clearly explained on your site.

Good site! :D
 

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Thanks. ;-)
 
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