# is it correct?

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#### moebachelor

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i've ever heard such this"if i knew him, i would have said hello"
... is it correct..??
as i know....
the form is " if+simple past, conditional I (=would + infinitive)
I am much obliged to you for your guidance.
Thanks.,

#### TheParser

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i've ever heard such this"if i knew him, i would have said hello"
... is it correct..??
as i know....
the form is " if+simple past, conditional I (=would + infinitive)
I am much obliged to you for your guidance.
Thanks.,

***** NOT A TEACHER *****

Good morning, Moebachelor.

(1) I think it is correct:

Tom: Why didn't you say hello to George yesterday?

You: Well, if I knew him (I do not know him), I would have said hello."

*****

I know VERY little about the conditional. I think (only THINK):

1st = If I HAVE time, I WILL visit you.

2nd = If I HAD time (I do not), I WOULD visit you.

3rd = If I HAD HAD time last week (I did not), I WOULD HAVE VISITED

you.

*****

If I am correct, then your sentence seems to be a combination of

2nd (If I knew) + 3rd (I would have said hello).

I think that grammar books tell us that many times we have to make

combinations in order to express correctly what we mean.

Let's see what others can teach you and me.

Have a nice day!

*****

I think that if George died, and someone asked you why you had not

said hello to George last month, then you could use all 3rd:

If I HAD KNOWN George at that time (I did not), I certainly WOULD HAVE

SAID hello.

#### moebachelor

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thanks a lot for to The Parser in advance.. :up:

i dig it for a little bit...

but, i still have two questions....

• in what situation can we use such a combination of conditional...??
• what's its real meaning???

#### TheParser

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thanks a lot for to The Parser in advance.. :up:

i dig it for a little bit...

but, i still have two questions....

• in what situation can we use such a combination of conditional...??
• what's its real meaning???

***** NOT A TEACHER *****

Hello again.

(1) I am sorry, but I do not understand your question.

(2) Do you mean to explain in more detail your example sentence?

(3) If that is the case, then I will be happy to try:

(a) You and Tom, a friend, are talking.

(b) Tom asks you: Hey, yesterday when we saw George across the

street, I waved to him, but you did not wave to him. Why?

(c) You reply: If I knew him, I would have waved.

(i) When you say "If I knew" (2nd conditional), that means you DO NOT

KNOW him. You have never met him.

(a) If I knew French (I don't), I would teach it.
(b) If I had ten million dollars (I don't), I would give you \$1,000.
(c) If Joe had a nice car (he doesn't), he could drive to the mountains.

It's important to remember that "knew" and "had"

are NOT being used as past forms here. They are referring to something

now that is not true. If I knew = I do not know.

(4) So in your example, you are telling your friend that the only reason

that you did not wave to George yesterday was that you do not know

George and that you do not like to wave to strangers. When you say, "If

I knew George, I would have waved to him," you want to say something

like:

The only reason that I did not wave to George is that I do not know him.

(5) If you have more questions, just keep posting them. Sooner or

If I could shake your hands now (Of course, I cannot. We are in two

different countries), I would wish you the best of luck.

#### moebachelor

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thank you. . . and i wish we could shake hands one day.
it's simply clear...

I plan to go to college majoring English but I always find a lot of confusions. . .
Last night, I found these query:

• The book is only available in the library.....these two chapters are taken. ( I wonder what adjective clause which I can fill with whether "from which" or "which from". My teacher in my course ( who is not majoring in English) answered "which from". But, i have a doubt about it.)
• When friends insist on.....expensive gifts, it makes most American unconfortable.

1. them to accept
2. their accepting
but, again I'm opposite with my teacher. As for me, the answer is number 1.

#### TheParser

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thank you. . . and i wish we could shake hands one day.
it's simply clear...

I plan to go to college majoring English but I always find a lot of confusions. . .
Last night, I found these query:

• The book is only available in the library.....these two chapters are taken. ( I wonder what adjective clause which I can fill with whether "from which" or "which from". My teacher in my course ( who is not majoring in English) answered "which from". But, i have a doubt about it.)
• When friends insist on.....expensive gifts, it makes most American unconfortable.

1. them to accept
2. their accepting
but, again I'm opposite with my teacher. As for me, the answer is number 1.

***** NOT A TEACHER *****

Good morning, Moebachelor.

(1) First, good luck on your career. I'm sure that you will be very

successful.

(2) I personally prefer:The book from which these two chapters are taken is available only in the library.

(3) And I prefer: When friends insist on their accepting expensive gifts, it makes most Americans uncomfortable.

(a) You notice the word "on." After "on," you cannot use an infinitive.

You need an -ing word: I invited my friends to dinner, but they

insisted on (their) paying the bill.

Have a nice day!

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