no/none

[blacknomi]

He's no fool. S + V + no + Noun
=He is not a fool at all.


This is no your business. :?: :!:
=This is not your business. (correct)


none of + determiner/pronoun
None of your business. (correct)
None of us speak English. (correct)

 

[MikeNewYork]

He's no fool. S + V + no + Noun
=He is not a fool at all.

Correct. No = adjective

This is no your business. :?: :!:
=This is not your business. (correct)

First is wrong; second is correct. Not = adverb

none of + determiner/pronoun
None of your business. (correct)
None of us speak English. (correct)

First is correct. None = pronoun
Second is debated. I would usually use a singular verb there.

From AHD:

USAGE NOTE It is widely asserted that none is equivalent to no one, and hence requires a singular verb and singular pronoun: None of the prisoners was given his soup. It is true that none is etymologically derived from the Old English word ān, “one,” but the word has been used as both a singular and a plural noun from Old English onward. The plural usage appears in the King James Bible as well as the works of John Dryden and Edmund Burke and is widespread in the works of respectable writers today. Of course, the singular usage is perfectly acceptable. The choice between a singular or plural verb depends on the desired effect. Both options are acceptable in this sentence: None of the conspirators has (or have) been brought to trial. When none is modified by almost, however, it is difficult to avoid treating the word as a plural: Almost none of the officials were (not was) interviewed by the committee. None can only be plural in its use in sentences such as None but his most loyal supporters believe (not believes) his story. See Usage Notes at every, neither, nothing.

 

[blacknomi]

Thank you, gentleman.

And one should bear in mind that he chooses the plural form of verb when he's in a test. :wink: 8)



Miss Funny.

 

[blacknomi]

Not surprisingly, we missed the train.
It was no surprising that we missed the train. :?:
It was not surprising that we missed the train.

Is the second one correct?

 

[Francois]

I don't think so.
It was no surprise that we missed the train.

FRC

 

[blacknomi]

Merci.

 

[Casiopea]

Not surprisingly, we missed the train.
It was no surprising that we missed the train. :?:
It was not surprising that we missed the train.

Is the second one correct?

I agree with FRC. Here we have an adjective (no) modifying a participle (surprising) that happens to be part of a past continuous verb (was surprising. The adverb not would work better:

It was not surprising (Adv + Participle)

Or, as FRC has noted, changing the participle (surprising) to a noun (surprise) works great, too,

It was no surprise (Adj + Noun)
It was of no surprise (Prep + Adj + Noun)

 

[blacknomi]

Thank you, our Lady in JP.

 

[MikeNewYork]

Thank you, gentleman.

And one should bear in mind that he chooses the plural form of verb when he's in a test. :wink: 8)



Miss Funny.

You're very welcome! :wink:

 

[Casiopea]

Thank you, our Lady in JP.

You're most welcome.

 

[blacknomi]

It is no bigger than I expected to be.
It is not bigger than I expected to be.


The first one is correct. I don't know how to explain why the second one sounds weird. It seems like they are somewhat phrasel.

(1)no + comparative : no more beautiful than
(2)any + comparative : no longer than


So my conclusion is that 'no' can modify an adjective in this situation. What do you think?

:lol:

 

[Casiopea]

It is no bigger than I expected to be.
It is not bigger than I expected to be.

The first one is correct. I don't know how to explain why the second one sounds weird. It seems like they are somewhat phrasel.

(1)no + comparative : no more beautiful than
(2)any + comparative : no longer than

So my conclusion is that 'no' can modify an adjective in this situation. What do you think?

:lol:

Comparative Structures
It is no bigger than I expected it to be. (OK; 'no' modifies 'bigger', an adjective)

It is not as big as I expected it to be. (OK; 'not' modifies 'is', the verb: It isn't as big as....)

Quoting someone else's words: function, emphasis
Pat: Is it bigger than you expected it to be?
Max: No. It is not "bigger" than I expected it to be. (OK; It isn't bigger....)

All the best,

 

[blacknomi]

It is no bigger than I expected to be.
It is not bigger than I expected to be.

The first one is correct. I don't know how to explain why the second one sounds weird. It seems like they are somewhat phrasel.

(1)no + comparative : no more beautiful than
(2)any + comparative : no longer than

So my conclusion is that 'no' can modify an adjective in this situation. What do you think?

:lol:

Comparative Structures
It is no bigger than I expected it to be. (OK; 'no' modifies 'bigger', an adjective)

It is not as big as I expected it to be. (OK; 'not' modifies 'is', the verb: It isn't as big as....)

Quoting someone else's words: function, emphasis
Pat: Is it bigger than you expected it to be?
Max: No. It is not "bigger" than I expected it to be. (OK; It isn't bigger....)

All the best,

I'd like to use my own words to paraphrase yours to make sure my understanding is close to you, okay?

It is no bigger than I expected it to be.
==> Do you mean that 'no' acts as an adjective to modify 'bigger'? I'd like to say 'no' functions as an adverb, which makes more sense to me if there's an adjective following it.


==> When I am quoting someone's words,

For example,

Cas: Is it more interesting than you expected it to be?
Nomi: No, it is NOT more interesting than I expected it to be.(Nomi implied that it's less interesting, or I should say it's boring to death.
.)
That [it is more interesting] is wrong.


Okay, in that situation, can I reply as "It is NO more interesting than I expected it to be?"
That [no more interesting] is true.




(1)That [it is more interesting] is wrong.
(2)That [no more interesting] is true.
I think they are almost the same. :shock:

 

[Casiopea]

Comparative Structures
It is no bigger than I expected it to be. (OK; 'no' modifies 'bigger', an adjective)

'no' modifies the adjective 'bigger'.
'no' functions as a quantifier--as an adverb of degree.

Cas: Is it more interesting than you expected it to be?
Nomi: No, it is NOT more interesting than I expected it to be.

(Nomi implied that it's less interesting, or I should say it's boring to death.) That [it is more interesting] is wrong.

I'd say 'Not' negates more interesting, nullifies it. That is, it could but doesn't necessarily imply the opposite less interesting.

Okay, in that situation, can I reply as "It is NO more interesting than I expected it to be?" That [no more interesting] is true.

To tell you the truth the example sentence doesn't sit well with me; It's hard for me to understand. Sorry. What about?

Q: Was it more interesting than the other movie?
A1: No. It wasn't more interesting than the other movie.
A2: No. It was no more interesting than the other movie.

A1: The other movie was more interesting.
A2: Both movies were equally interesting or equally boring.

All the best,




(1)That [it is more interesting] is wrong.
(2)That [no more interesting] is true.
I think they are almost the same. :shock:[/quote]

 

[Wai_Wai]

He's no fool. S + V + no + Noun
=He is not a fool at all.


This is no your business. :?: :!:
=This is not your business. (correct)


none of + determiner/pronoun
None of your business. (correct)
None of us speak English. (correct)

He's no fool. S + V + no + Noun <--Y
=He is not a fool at all. <--Y


This is no your business. :?: :!: <-- N because of the word 'your'
=This is not your business. (correct) <-- Y

none of + determiner/pronoun <--Y
None of your business. (correct) <--Y
None of us speak English. (correct) <-- :!: :?:

Probably no one agrees with me. But it is:
- None of us speaks English.
It is what my dictionaries and usage English books say about the standard and correct one. None is grammatically singular.
So it is more likely to be the answer in a public English test.