participle clauses question

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hey_friends

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People who live in that area are very rich.
People living in that area are very rich.

if present "live" change into past tense "lived",
so how we convert into participle clause?

for example:
the team wich win the match will go through final.
the team winning the match will go through final.

(past tense):
the team which won the match will go through final.
the team winning the match will go through final.

am i right?
 
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the team which won the match will go through final.
the team winning the match will go through final.

I guess the conversion is not correct.

According to grammar rules, the present participle does not have an explicit tense. It could be present or past. To retrieve the tense of the present participle, you have to look at the main verb of the sentence.

Therefore, in your example above, to retrieve the tense of "winning", you have to look at the main verb, which is "will go", which is obviously present! Since the main verb is presnet then there is only one way to understand "winning": i.e. which wins RATHER THAN "which won".

In my opinion, the conversion from "which won" into "winning" in your example IS IMPOSSIBLE.
 

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People who live in that area are very rich.
People living in that area are very rich.

if present "live" change into past tense "lived",
so how we convert into participle clause?

for example:
The team which wins the match will go through to the final. :tick:
The team winning the match will go through to the final. :tick:

(past tense):
The team which won the match will go through to the final. :cross:
The team winning the match will go through to the final. You've got it already.

The team who won the match would go/went through to the final. :tick:
The team winning the match would go/went through to the final.
:tick:

am i right?

:)
 

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The team which won the match will go through to the final : this is fine.

It's absolutely fine, but it differs from the sentences in question.
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present tense and pass tense also use "winning",right?so meant that i am right?

but i don't understand why i could not put "will" and "would/went" must be used?
 

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1)the magazine isn't worth reading.
2)it's no good trying to convince her.
3)it's no use worrying about the exam now.
4)he had no difficulty getting a place on the course.
5)It will be difficult having conceded two goals.
6)it must be terrible having to decide whether to play anelka and drogba,two up front or one up front.
7)Chong Wei had hoped to skip the tournament claiming he was mentally tired after competing in the Thomas Cup qualifiers in Vietnam, the All-England and the Swiss Open.

why reading,trying,worrying,getting,claiming and having are applied in these sentence?why don't we use original word?could someone explain to me?
very thanks
 
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