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"It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys still partying way past their prime."


what does it mean??


A "It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys are still partying way past their prime."


B "It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys who are still partying way past their prime."
 

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wendy said:
"It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys still partying way past their prime."


what does it mean??


A "It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys are still partying way past their prime."


B "It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys who are still partying way past their prime."

Wendy, I think it is time to move on to a different subject. :wink:
 
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MikeNewYork said:
wendy said:
"It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys still partying way past their prime."


what does it mean??


A "It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys are still partying way past their prime."


B "It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys who are still partying way past their prime."

Wendy, I think it is time to move on to a different subject. :wink:


But I don't understand... A or B???? :roll:
 

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wendy said:
MikeNewYork said:
wendy said:
"It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys still partying way past their prime."


what does it mean??


A "It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys are still partying way past their prime."


B "It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys who are still partying way past their prime."

Wendy, I think it is time to move on to a different subject. :wink:


But I don't understand... A or B???? :roll:

They mean the same thing. All that is changing is the grammar. :roll:

I have a brown dog.
My dog is brown.
I have a dog who is brown.
The dog I own is brown.

They all mean the same thing. :D
 
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I said:
I don't understand All these older guys, partying way past their prime. It is A or B


A the older guys are still partying past their prime

B the older guys who are still partying past their prime
you said:
It is definitely B.

It could be A if they have done this before, but we don't know that.



and if I ask you It is C. or D. Could you tell me?



C. the older guys are partying past their prime

D. the older guys who are partying past their prime
 

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There is absolutely no difference between A&B and C&D- the addition of 'still' doesn't have any effect on the grammar of 'partying'- it merely emphasises the time factor.
 
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"It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys still partying way past their prime."

I don't understand the above sentence because from the below present participle case

The man smoking a cigarette is my uncle

Smoking a cigarette modify what man is the speaker's uncle It focuses on the man not his action of smoking

I understand it because participle is verb-adjective It is the same as the sentence

The man who is smoking a cigarette is my uncle

But

"It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys still partying way past their prime."

It seems to focus on the action/partying but it is not focus on the guys

It seems to be like this

It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys. They are still partying way past their prime.

It does not seem to be like this

It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys who are still partying way past their prime. [Which is I understand that partying modify that the older guys are pathetic not their action/partying is pathetic.]

Isn't participle use to modify but it is not the focus of the sentence?

I'm so confused............
 

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wendy said:
"It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys still partying way past their prime."

I don't understand the above sentence because from the below present participle case

The man smoking a cigarette is my uncle

Smoking a cigarette modify what man is the speaker's uncle It focuses on the man not his action of smoking

I understand it because participle is verb-adjective It is the same as the sentence

The man who is smoking a cigarette is my uncle

But

"It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys still partying way past their prime."

It seems to focus on the action/partying but it is not focus on the guys

It seems to be like this

It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys. They are still partying way past their prime.

It does not seem to be like this

It's sad, isn't it? All these older guys who are still partying way past their prime. [Which is I understand that partying modify that the older guys are pathetic not their action/partying is pathetic.]

Isn't participle use to modify but it is not the focus of the sentence?

I'm so confused............

It's the same. :D

John: It's sad, isn't it?
Max: What's sad? (What do you mean by "It"? What's "It"?)
John: "It" means, All these older guys partying past their prime.

All these older guys partying past their prime is sad.

Subject: All these older guys (who are) partying past their prime
Verb: is
SC/Object: sad

The entire phrase "All these olders guys partying past their prime" functions as the subject; that's why the verb is singular 'is'. In other words,

John: That thing is sad, isn't it?
Max: What thing?
John: All these older guys partying past their prime.
 
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