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What do these mean?

1. We accept debit card.
2. We accept debit cards. (Does this mean we accept more the one kind of debit cards or does it mean we accept many debit cards? Or both?

Are these correct? What do they mean?
3. We accept debit and master card.
4. We accept debit and master cards.
5. Does this mean we accept more the one kind of debit cards?
6. Does this mean we accept more the one kind of debit card?

7. There are more customers then workers.
8. There is more customer then worker.
9. There is more customer then workers.
10 There are more customers then worker.

What do these mean? Are they correct?
8. We have more customers then workers.
9. We have more customer then worker. (Would this be incorrect? Because it only make sense to have more then one worker and customer?

Are these correct? What is the subject and verb?
10. He's written a piece of software which calculates your tax returns for you.
11. He's written a piece of software which calculates your tax return for you.
 

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1. We accept debit card. :(
2. We accept debit cards. :D

All kinds of debit cards and/or everyone's debit card

3. We accept debit and master card. :(
4. We accept debit and master cards. :(

'mastercard' is a compound noun.

5. Does this mean we accept more the one kind of debit cards? :(
6. Does this mean we accept more the one kind of debit card? :D

one kind of _________ (singular noun)

7. There are more customers than workers. :D
8. There is more customer then worker. :(

Linking Structure
There = more customers than workers.
Verb: 'are' (plural)
Subject Complements: 'customers' (plural), 'workers' (plural)

Note, 'more than' is a set pair. 'more then' is incorrect.

9. There is more customer then workers. :(
10 There are more customers than worker. :(

'more than' is correlative. It joins like pairs,

more ______ than _______ (plural nouns)

8. We have more customers than workers. :D
9. We have more customer then worker. :(

10. He's written a piece of software which calculates your tax returns for you. :D
11. He's written a piece of software which calculates your tax return for you. :D

'tax return' is a noun, not a verb. It can be singular or plural:

Singular: tax return (one tax return)
Plural: tax returns (more than one tax return, say, from this year and last year).

Structure
Subject: which (relative pronoun, refers to 'software')
Verb: calculates (singular, argrees in number with 'which')

All the best, :D
 

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Thanks.

Are these correct? If not, why? What do these mean?
1. There are more customers than workers.
2. There is more customer than worker.

3. There is more customer than workers.
4. There are more customers than worker.

'mastercard' is a compound noun.
How can I correct this? Is this correct?
5. We accept debit and master-cards.
 

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1. There are more customers than workers. :D
2. There is more customer than worker. :(
3. There is more customer than workers. :(
4. There are more customers than worker. :(
5. We accept debit and master-cards. :(

Try,

We accept debit cards and MasterCard. :D

Note, there is only one MasterCard proper. That is, there are as many MasterCard cards are there are people who have them, but there is only one logo/brand "MasterCard".
 

jack

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Thanks.

Are these sentences correct? What is the subject and verb?

1. My case fans, motherboard, and video card fan already makes a lot of sound.
2. My case fans, motherboard, and video card fans already make a lot of sound.

Is this sentence grammatically correct with 'case fans' for this sentence?
3. My case fans, motherboard, and video card fans already make a lot of sound. (The sentence doesn't look right to me b/c 'case fan' is plural and that kills the parallelism?)

What is the subject and verb?
4. Your fingers identifies you and gives convenient access to password protected applications.
Why do ' identifies' and 'gives' have an -s?


If I see a car with flames (not different flames), which one would I use?
5. This car has ghost flame. (One flame? Does this make sense?)
6. This car has ghost flames. (Does this mean many flames or different kind of flames or both? How do you know?
 

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'Ghost flame'means nothing to me. I'd see a car 'in flames'. ;-)
 

jack

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tdol said:
'Ghost flame'means nothing to me. I'd see a car 'in flames'. ;-)

If I see a car with flames (not different flames), which one would I use?
I'm trying to say flames as in detail, like painting on the car.

http://www.car-shows.com/features/flames/AussiePT/expo01_flames.jpg
From this picture, would I use flames or flame?

5. This car has ghost flame. (One flame? Does this make sense?)
6. This car has ghost flames. (Does this mean many flames or different kind of flames or both? How do you know?)
 

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I'd use flames there.

PS Thanks, Red.;-)
 

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jack said:
1. This car has ghost flames.
Does this mean many flames or different kind of flames or both? How do you know?


1. This car has ghost flames. (OK; more than one flame)
2. This car has a ghost flame. (OK; One flame)
3. This car has ghost flame. (Not OK; 'flame' is a count noun so it needs determiner)

jack said:
Our week-long research confirmed what our readers had already told us. High-end graphic cards,

How come it isn't 'graphics cards'?

graphic adj. of or relating to the visual or descriptive arts
 

jack

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I still don't really understand this:

1. High-end graphic cards.
2. High-end graphics cards.
What do these mean?

What do these mean?
3. I need a dictionary with sound.
4. I need a dictionary with sounds.

5. I need a sound card that can produce good sound.
6. I need a sound card that can produce good sounds.

7. I need a sound card that can produce sound.
8. I need a sound card that can produce sounds.

Sound is countable, so is ths wrong?
9. I need a sound card that can produce sound.

Correct?
10. I need a sound card that can produce a sound.
Or
11. I need a sound card that can produce sounds.

Are these correct? What is the subject and verb?
12. It is going to make the cold air sink.
13. It is going to make the cold air sinks.

What's the subject and verb? Are these correct?
14. All products and services used in the repair and maintenance of vehicles.
15. All products and services used in the repairs and maintenances of vehicles.
 

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1. High-end graphic cards. (pertaining to the visual arts)
2. High-end graphics cards. (pertaining to computer graphics)
3. I need a dictionary with sound. ('sound' in general)
4. I need a dictionary with sounds. (various sounds)

9. I need a sound card that can produce sound. Same as 3.
10. I need a sound card that can produce a sound. (one sound)
11. I need a sound card that can produce sounds. Same as 4.
12. It is going to make the cold air sink.
13. It is going to make the cold air sinks. :( 'sink' is an ajdective
14. All products and services used in the repair and maintenance of vehicles... (there's no verb in this sentence) :(
15. All products and services used in the repairs and maintenances of vehicles... (no verb here either) :wink: [/quote]
 

jack

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Thanks.

What do these mean?
1. Her songs suck.
2. Her songs do suck.
3. Her songs do sucks. (What's the subject and verb?)

Are these correct? How do you know if it is 'graphics' or 'graphic'? How can I test it myself to see if it is right or wrong?
4. You will need a good graphics card to play graphic intense games.
5. You will need a good graphics card to play graphics intense games.
What does #4 and #5 mean?

What do these mean?
6. Her lyrics and beats are not good. (What is the subject and verb in this sentence?)
7. Her lyric and beat are not good.

8. I get base paid and commission.
9. I get a base paid and a commission. (Is the determiner 'a' for 'base' incorrect because 'paid' is not countable?)
10. I get base paid and commissions. (Does this mean more then one type of commission? If so, what does that mean?)
What does #8 and #10 mean?

Are these correct? What do they mean?
11. It's a nice job but the pay is appalling. (Do I need 'the' here? If so, why?)
12. It's a nice job but pay is appalling.
 

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The subject us underlined; the verbs are 'sucks, do, do': :lol:

1. Her songs suck. :D
2. Her songs do (in fact) suck. :D
3. Her songs do sucks. :(

4. graphic intense games. :?: The games are graphic?
5. graphics intense games. :?: The graphics are intense?

6. Her lyrics and beats are not good. (More than one)
7. Her lyric and beat are not good. (One)

8. I get base pay and commission. :D
9. I get a base pay and a commission. :D
10. I get base pay and commissions. :D

11. It's a nice job but the pay is appalling. :D
12. It's a nice job but pay is appalling. :( 'the pay' is specific; it refers to the 'job'.
 

jack

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Thanks.

Why is this correct without the determiner?
1. I need a sound card that can produce (a) sound.

What do these mean?
2. Why is this correct without the determiner?
3. Why is this correct without determiner? (Is this correct? If not, why?)
4. Why is this correct without a determiner?

Are these sentences correct? What is the subject and verb?
5. My case fans, motherboard, and video card fan already makes a lot of sound.
6. My case fans, motherboard, and video card fans already make a lot of sound.

Is this sentence grammatically correct with 'case fans' for this sentence?
7. My case fans, motherboard, and video card fans already make a lot of sound. (The sentence doesn't look right to me b/c 'case fan' is plural and that kills the parallelism?)

What is the subject and verb?
8. Your fingers identifies you and gives convenient access to password protected applications.
Why do ' identifies' and 'gives' have an -s?

9. It is going to make the cold air sinks. 'sink' is an ajdective
What's the subject and verb in this sentence? How is 'sink' an adjective? Isn't 'cold' a adjective?

Are these correct?
9. What's the subject and verb in this sentence?
10. What's subject and verb in this sentence? (IF this is not correct, why?)

11. Her lyrics and beats are not good. (Does this mean more then one song?
12. Her lyric and beat are not good. (One song?)

What do these mean?
13. I get base pay and commission. (Why don't I need to use the determiner here?)
14. I get a base pay and a commission.

What do these mean?
15. Aftermarket (Replacement Market): all products and services used in the repair and maintenance of vehicles.
16. Aftermarket (Replacement Market): all products and services used in the repairs and maintenances of vehicles

Are these correct?
15. Aftermarket (Replacement Market): all products and services used in the repair and maintenance of vehicles.
16. Aftermarket (Replacement Market): all products and services used in repair and maintenance of vehicles. (Is this wrong without 'the'? If so, why?)
17. Aftermarket (Replacement Market): all products and services used in the repair and the maintenance of vehicles. (Is it redundant to use 'the' here?)

What do these mean?
18. We accept debit card and MasterCard. ('debit card' and 'mastercard' is countable, why is it correct without the determiner?
18. We accept a debit card and a MasterCard card.
 

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1. 'sound' in general.
3. 'the' is required. You're referring back to a specific determiner.
4. 'a' is required. 'determiner' is a count noun. Count nouns needs a determiner. In English, nouns are possessions. Possessions are either important or known ('the') or they are not important or unknown ('a').
5. Three things (case fans, motherboard, and video-card fan) already make a lot of noise. (Plural verb; 'noise', awful sound).
Is this sentence grammatically correct with 'case fans' for this sentence?
7. These three things: My case fans, motherboard, and video card fans already make a lot of noise. (OK) You could rewrite it as follows:

My case fans, video card fan(s), and my motherboard already make a lot of noise.

8a. Your fingerprint identifies you and gives convenient access to password protected applications. (Subject, singular = fingerprint; Verb, singular = identifies, gives.)

8b. Your fingers identify you and give convenient access to password protected applications. (Subject, plural = fingers; Verb, plural = identify, give.)

9a. cold air (Noun phase made up of the adjective 'cold' and the noun 'air'. sinks an unknown word. :?:
9b. OK. 'the' refers to a specfic subject and verb that you are pointing out.
10. Not OK. 'subject' and 'verb' are count nouns; they need a determiner.
11. The sentence is odd. Try, tempo instead of 'beats'.
12. Her one lyric? Odd.
13. I get these two general things: base pay and commission.
14. I get these two separate things: a base pay and a commission. (See 18b.)
15a. OK
16a. OK
15b.OK
16b. OK
17. 'the' is added for emphasis.
18a. We accept this brand and that brand. (OK)
18b. We accept one of this brand and one of that brand. (OK)

Way too many questions, jack. :(
 

jack

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Sorry, cheer up, Casiopea. :oops:

Are these correct? What do they mean?
1. For these songs, her tempo is not good.
2. For these songs, her tempos is not good. (Since it is more then one song, does it make sense to use 'tempos' or should I use 'tempo'? How do I know which one to use?)
3. For this song, her tempo is not good.
4. For this song, her tempos is not good.
 

jack

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tempo, always
So 'tempos' is wrong?

1. For these songs, her tempo is not good.
2. For these songs, her tempos are not good. (Incorrect? But since it is more then one song, does it make sense to use 'tempos' or should I use 'tempo'? How do I know which one to use?)

Are these correct? What do they mean?
3. For this song, her beat is not good.
4. For this song, her beats are not good. (Does it make sense to use 'beats' for one song?)
5. For these songs, her beat is not good.
6. For these songs, her beats are not good. (Does it make sense to use 'beats' since it is more then one song?

Are these correct? What do these mean?
7. I hate puddle.
8. I hate puddles.
 
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